> John,
> 
> The key issue is about the "secondary use" of data...not prime access to
> the dat through the vendor application, which, as far as I am aware is
> totally open, as it should be. The issue arises when data needs to be
> extracted for other purposes and some of the vendors have made parts of
> the data inaccessible for reasons that may be support related, or some
> other reason. 

Hi John,

Glad someone made this distinction as I think it's import. No vendor is
preventing access to practice data - all products allow any user-generated
data to be accessed via the product's native, supported interface.

To further repeat what you've just said, the real question is what other
types of access vendors do/could/should provide to the data in their
products.

I can think of 5 broad options:

1. None.
2. Export to an unencrypted format (all data, vendor determined format).
3. Export to an unencrypted format (agreed minimum standard).
4. Read-only live access via SQL or another interface.
5. Read/Write live access via SQL or another interface.

I think (2) should be the minimum expectation.

(3) would obviously be better in many cases, but folks need to be aware that
solely relying on a "minimum data set" or CEHR as described in the adjacent
thread will result in varying levels of data loss during a product switch
(somewhere between "zero" and "heaps").

No matter how capable the third-party developer, (4) will result in a burden
for the 1st-party developer. As such, I expect I'll be inviting ridicule by
suggesting that this level of access SHOULDN'T be mandated.

Of course, if the 1st-party developer is incentivised adequately or can
construct a business case using some other reasoning (e.g. current or future
customer demand), there is no reason why this sort of access can't happen.

(5) would obviously be more involving and risky for both the 1st and 3rd
party developer. Is this happening in the market presently?

All the best,
Simon


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