Hi Roger,

thanks for clarification. I understand why it happens but I still think this is somewhat unexpected behaviour.

However, to wrap it up, I guess it's always best to have a 'cat' column in the attribute table as then this won't happen.

Tobias


Am 21.10.21 um 09:55 schrieb Roger Bivand:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, Tobias Pilz wrote:

Hi Vero,

as I understand it, vector files in GRASS need a key column if they have an attribute table. But I don't see that this has to be a column named 'cat'. However, GRASS is quite inconsistent here. Some functions ensure the existence of a 'cat' column, such as v.db.dropcolumn (just gives an error if you try to remove the 'cat' column), whereas other functions let one define other columns as key column (e.g. manually in the GUI or v.db.addtable).

The latter happened with my vector map, i.e. a different column was defined as key column. Therefore it is confusing why rgrass7::writeVECT() just adds the cat column and without any notification. This makes no sense to me and is annoying as my subsequent workflow produced unexpected results and I had to trace back the error which took a while.

In sf vector objects, there is no concept of key column, I think. In sp vector objects (used before, should be avoided from now on as sf is actively maintained), the geometry ID is keyed to the row.names of the data slot data.frame object, but is also not seen as a user-facing key column.

So you are adding (as a user) a concept not present  in the R-side objects.

In practice, cat can be useful where cleaning has split line or polygon objects imported into GRASS into multiple features, which can then be unioned back after exporting from GRASS to R, but this isn't a concept, it is a pragmatic fix.

Hope this clarifies,

Roger



From my perspective as user it would be great if a more consistent solution regarding the treatment of key columns could be found, i.e. either always ensure the existence of a column named 'cat' or just accept if the user specifies a different key column.

Regards,

Tobias

Am 20.10.21 um 20:41 schrieb Veronica Andreo:
 Hello Tobias,

 The cat colum is the ID that GRASS uses for vectors, hence this is
 expected
 and right. The same happens if you import a gpgk or shape or any other
 vector file into GRASS. See
 https://grass.osgeo.org/grass78/manuals/vectorintro.html for further info

 HTH,
 Vero



 El mié, 20 oct 2021 a las 9:34, Tobias Pilz (<top...@pik-potsdam.de>)
 escribió:

 Dear list,

 when I use in R the writeVECT() command the resulting map in GRASS got
 the 'cat' column silently added to its attribute table if it didn't
 exist.

 The vector object in question was previously imported to R via
 readVECT() and had a different column defined as key column.

 Is this behaviour of writeVECT() intentional? If yes, why so and
 wouldn't it make sense to give a warning?

 Note: I used rgrass7 version 0.2-6 together with GRASS 7.8.5 under Linux
 (opensuse).

 Regards,

 Tobias


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