Dan,
All subscribers to any OLPC mailing list can get a password reminder as
follows:
http://lists.laptop.org/options/MAILING_LIST
So in your case:
http://lists.laptop.org/options/support-gang
--Holt
Daniel Bennett wrote:
Hi Mel,
Great Post. +1 here. Just a quick question. I can't seem to get
past the login screen when trying to view the archived support gang
email from March:
5. Is there a possibility of publishing emails like the ones on
http://lists.laptop.org/private/support-gang/2009-March/005198.html so
that people not on the private support-gang mailing list can see them?
I'm on the support gang, but it's not accepting any of my passwords
(teamwiki, rt, etc.) I also don't believe that I've ever been asked
to associate my email address with a password via the support gang
either. It's always been a username, right?
Any clue on how to view that email?
Thanks,
-Dan
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1. What's up with OLPCorps? (Mel Chua)
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From: Mel Chua <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [Grassroots-l] What's up with OLPCorps?
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Ok, I'm going to be somewhat presumptious here.
I've been watching the community reactions to
http://www.onehereonethere.org and the OLPCorps program and have been
hearing a lot of frustrations and a lot of questions - the vast
majority
of which I share, actually - and decided to ping Paul Commons to see
what I could learn about what they were trying to do. We just had our
first conversation tonight, over the phone; it was a tough but good
conversation, and can be generally summarized by "there's a
community of
very smart and awesome people out there and you should talk with them
and ask them things." "how?"
To go out on a limb here - and I could be wrong - it seems to me
that at
least some of this frustration comes from (1) Paul being still in the
middle of learning how to work with the kind of volunteer communities
that OLPC has, and (2) from the impression that after multiple
years and
untold thousands of man-hours of volunteering for OLPC without much in
the way of thanks or support, here drops this BLESSED PROJECT!
from the
sky with these people you have never heard of with no prior
contribution
record that you know of magically getting all these resources from
1cc,
including lots of shiny press, for no apparent reason, and that just
seems... unfair. Regardless of the actual situation, I'm guessing that
it might /seem/ that way to some people. (It did to me, and still kind
of does, though I know that's likely due to me missing huge swaths of
the story.)
I still don't know the actual situation. It's kind of silly to think
that anybody does. But I think I know a little more now, enough to
conclude that we can't deal with (2) until (1) gets a little further
along - so I was really happy to hear that Paul is trying to make the
workings of OLPCorps more transparent and trying to figure out how to
respond to the feedback - especially the criticism - we've offered on
many different forums. He needs help/advice on how to do it - learning
the unwritten rules of how to participate in a new community is hard.
In that vein, and with the long prelude finished, instead of
asking Paul
all the questions I had over the phone, we agreed that I would send a
first round of my questions about OLPCorps out over a public mailing
list (hi!) so that Paul could respond and we could continue our
dialog,
so here it is. (Paul, I know you're incredibly busy right now, so
holler
back when you have time.)
1.It's hard to get a sense of who you are and what you're working on
from the (very professional!) descriptions! at
http://www.onehereonethere.org/board.asp. When we talked on the phone
tonight. You told me a far more interesting backstory about how your
involvement and the OLPCorps project started, and how you worked alone
for a long time on an unsupported project to make this happen
before it
was picked up and supported by 1cc, which is inspiring (and
encouraging
and instructional for those of us who've been trying to get
support for
our own projects for a while. ;) How can we hear more about this?
2. What previous deployments (including "unofficial" grassroots
deployments like http://blog.olenepal.org/,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Boston pilots, http://waveplace.com/, and
http://www.olpcfriends.org as well as the many deployment teachers at
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur) have you spoken to?
What was
their reaction/feedback? How will what you're doing affect/help their
deployments?
3. Ditto above for
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/University_chapters#University_Groups,
noting
that not all students volunteering for OLPC are in university, not all
university students volunteer as part of a group, and not all
groups are
listed on that page.
4. Why are we emailing [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> for more information or to
offer help? Why not [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>, where people can view
previous introductions and comment on and welcome new inquirers? (It
won't happen automatically - opening something publicly up to
volunteers
will not magically solve all your problems - but this makes it
possible
for us to help.)
5. Is there a possibility of publishing emails like the ones on
http://lists.laptop.org/private/support-gang/2009-March/005198.html so
that people not on the private support-gang mailing list can see them?
Can we see the rough planning emails that have been going back and
forth, and otherwise see why you made the decisions you made, what
you're trying to figure out, and what you're having trouble with
so that
we can help? (There are a good number of people here who have run or
mentored internship programs before.) I know they're rough and show a
lot of mistakes - this is the equivalent of publishing your source
code
so that other people can help you find and fix the bugs. We know from
all the things you've made so far that you can definitely operate very
professionally and produce polished things when you need to, but it's
hard to get invested and involved if we can't see and join the
conversation.
I have a million more questions about training, publicity, follow-up,
sustainability, how you'll gauge your impact, etc. but I'll save them
for a second round. ;)
--Mel
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