Thanks! On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Holt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dan, > All subscribers to any OLPC mailing list can get a password reminder as > follows: > http://lists.laptop.org/options/MAILING_LIST > > So in your case: > http://lists.laptop.org/options/support-gang > > --Holt > > > Daniel Bennett wrote: > > Hi Mel, > Great Post. +1 here. Just a quick question. I can't seem to get past > the login screen when trying to view the archived support gang email from > March: > >> 5. Is there a possibility of publishing emails like the ones on >> http://lists.laptop.org/private/support-gang/2009-March/005198.html so >> that people not on the private support-gang mailing list can see them? > > > I'm on the support gang, but it's not accepting any of my passwords > (teamwiki, rt, etc.) I also don't believe that I've ever been asked to > associate my email address with a password via the support gang either. > It's always been a username, right? > > Any clue on how to view that email? > > Thanks, > -Dan > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Send Grassroots mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Grassroots digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. What's up with OLPCorps? (Mel Chua) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:23:15 -0400 >> From: Mel Chua <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Grassroots-l] What's up with OLPCorps? >> To: OLPC Grassroots list <[email protected]> >> Cc: Paul Commons <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Ok, I'm going to be somewhat presumptious here. >> >> I've been watching the community reactions to >> http://www.onehereonethere.org and the OLPCorps program and have been >> hearing a lot of frustrations and a lot of questions - the vast majority >> of which I share, actually - and decided to ping Paul Commons to see >> what I could learn about what they were trying to do. We just had our >> first conversation tonight, over the phone; it was a tough but good >> conversation, and can be generally summarized by "there's a community of >> very smart and awesome people out there and you should talk with them >> and ask them things." "how?" >> >> To go out on a limb here - and I could be wrong - it seems to me that at >> least some of this frustration comes from (1) Paul being still in the >> middle of learning how to work with the kind of volunteer communities >> that OLPC has, and (2) from the impression that after multiple years and >> untold thousands of man-hours of volunteering for OLPC without much in >> the way of thanks or support, here drops this BLESSED PROJECT! from the >> sky with these people you have never heard of with no prior contribution >> record that you know of magically getting all these resources from 1cc, >> including lots of shiny press, for no apparent reason, and that just >> seems... unfair. Regardless of the actual situation, I'm guessing that >> it might /seem/ that way to some people. (It did to me, and still kind >> of does, though I know that's likely due to me missing huge swaths of >> the story.) >> >> I still don't know the actual situation. It's kind of silly to think >> that anybody does. But I think I know a little more now, enough to >> conclude that we can't deal with (2) until (1) gets a little further >> along - so I was really happy to hear that Paul is trying to make the >> workings of OLPCorps more transparent and trying to figure out how to >> respond to the feedback - especially the criticism - we've offered on >> many different forums. He needs help/advice on how to do it - learning >> the unwritten rules of how to participate in a new community is hard. >> >> In that vein, and with the long prelude finished, instead of asking Paul >> all the questions I had over the phone, we agreed that I would send a >> first round of my questions about OLPCorps out over a public mailing >> list (hi!) so that Paul could respond and we could continue our dialog, >> so here it is. (Paul, I know you're incredibly busy right now, so holler >> back when you have time.) >> >> 1.It's hard to get a sense of who you are and what you're working on >> from the (very professional!) descriptions! at >> http://www.onehereonethere.org/board.asp. When we talked on the phone >> tonight. You told me a far more interesting backstory about how your >> involvement and the OLPCorps project started, and how you worked alone >> for a long time on an unsupported project to make this happen before it >> was picked up and supported by 1cc, which is inspiring (and encouraging >> and instructional for those of us who've been trying to get support for >> our own projects for a while. ;) How can we hear more about this? >> >> 2. What previous deployments (including "unofficial" grassroots >> deployments like http://blog.olenepal.org/, >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Boston pilots, http://waveplace.com/, and >> http://www.olpcfriends.org as well as the many deployment teachers at >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur) have you spoken to? What was >> their reaction/feedback? How will what you're doing affect/help their >> deployments? >> >> 3. Ditto above for >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/University_chapters#University_Groups, noting >> that not all students volunteering for OLPC are in university, not all >> university students volunteer as part of a group, and not all groups are >> listed on that page. >> >> 4. Why are we emailing [email protected] for more information or to >> offer help? Why not [email protected], where people can view >> previous introductions and comment on and welcome new inquirers? (It >> won't happen automatically - opening something publicly up to volunteers >> will not magically solve all your problems - but this makes it possible >> for us to help.) >> >> 5. Is there a possibility of publishing emails like the ones on >> http://lists.laptop.org/private/support-gang/2009-March/005198.html so >> that people not on the private support-gang mailing list can see them? >> Can we see the rough planning emails that have been going back and >> forth, and otherwise see why you made the decisions you made, what >> you're trying to figure out, and what you're having trouble with so that >> we can help? (There are a good number of people here who have run or >> mentored internship programs before.) I know they're rough and show a >> lot of mistakes - this is the equivalent of publishing your source code >> so that other people can help you find and fix the bugs. We know from >> all the things you've made so far that you can definitely operate very >> professionally and produce polished things when you need to, but it's >> hard to get invested and involved if we can't see and join the >> conversation. >> >> I have a million more questions about training, publicity, follow-up, >> sustainability, how you'll gauge your impact, etc. but I'll save them >> for a second round. ;) >> >> --Mel >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Grassroots mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots >> >> >> End of Grassroots Digest, Vol 20, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Grassroots mailing > [email protected]http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots > >
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