hi,
no offenses intended to anyone, i am just
discsussing.
- tell me one pm in the past who was a beggar/ or so to say of inadequate
qualifications
[Anand] I wasn't exactly talking of
PM's. Explain Rabri Devi. She can't read English, AFAIK.
- lalu holds masters in eco
[Anand] What!!!! This should have been
front page news.
- tell me of an IITian who is into reforms
[Anand] Ppl Like Satyendra Dubey are murdered for being honest.
So nobody dares to.
- tell me an IIM passout into politics/reforms
[Anand] That's the point. Give them an entry point and find out
what they can do.
- tell me of a software engineer (who got campus placed ;) ) into
politics.
[Anand] Atleast I can run a politics debate
group!!
by the way :- i m shocked at what bihar
is going thru ... man ! those elected MLAs are upset .... and why ? coz they
are not getting a chance to looto-fy the public anymore... and are willing to
go to any extent to get into power.... god bless this country ...
Regards,
Abhishek.
On 5/25/05, Anand
Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
hi,
let's
look at this your way.
and how the hell can
someone even think abt giving the responsibility of a democratic nation to
certain peopl just because they had enough money to do an MBA?
similarly , just how the hell can we give responsiblity to
criminals and goondas to lead a democratic nation?? Yes we call ourselves
the biggest democracy in the world. How democratic are we? Are we really
using even an iota of the democratic powers that are entitled to us?? Are
the people we are supposedly electing, true representatives of our
problems?? Do they really care about it? No!!! when they get
elected, they know, they are going to survive a 5 yr term. There is no
pressure on them to work, you see!!! Only pressure on them is from the
opposition, and they are busy hiding and taking care of scandals and making
up other goofy mistakes they do.
Let's not look at specific examples.
Take a human being. Let him live in the forest. no education, no socialising
with the right kind of ppl, and put the same guy in a society, educate him,
teach him moral values, what is right and what is wrong. Who will be the
better person??
Agreed, today even the very literate are corrupt. even
doctors and engineers sabotage lives to get money. Greed is the basic of
human emotions, it the basis of all this trauma. power and greed for power
overrides subtler feelings of companionship, brotherhood and nationality. It
is ok, even kind of bearable if only a few ppl are corrupt. There are always
going to be some, we can't change that. I myself might need to bribe a
person for some grave reason. Human mind searches for simpler solutions,
overriding logic. but, that;s not the point. If among twenty doctors, 1 is
corrupt. That is acceptable. If among 20, 19 are corrupt, something needs to
be done to change it. What and how, that is debatable.
I'll give you a
comparison. We adopted our democracy from England. How many times have you
heard of staging out by opposition parties in england. How many times have
you heard of chairs being broken and disrupt in the parliment of england.
NEVER in my 19 yrs of existence. Why is that our so-called democracy, so
prominent with in-fighting. I'll tell you the reason. THe ppl in the English
parliment are LITERATE. ppl in our parliment are MAFIA GOONDAS. Is my point
clear to ppl?
what I want is this. Do ppl agree that literate ppl
are more sane than illeterate ppl?? Is it not true that the thought process
of a educated human being is more structured and logical?? Education
certainly makes a man more capable of handling problems when he faces it. In
a LOGICAL manner
dont know why people are coming
forward with such short cuts as a solution(?)
SHORTCUT??!! This is nothing but a shortcut. This
is meant to be a revolution. Try passing a bill that will not allow criminal
ppl to stand for elections. The whole political fraternity will reject it.
Yet, we ppl, who are the heart of democracy, whom the system is supposed to
work for, want that very thing!!! We want good ppl leading us, forget
leading us, representing us. Let not the country go forward, atleast don't
hold it from going forward!!!! or worse, don't take it backward!!!
oh, i'll tell you, some of the dumbest people i
have ever met are from the HR dept of MNC's, all 'great' MBA
s.
Yes, some of the brightest thinkers are MBA's too!!! The
dumb MBA's will always be there. But get the good ones aunty. someone who
knows logic and economics. Someone who understands country and world
economics. The fact that he has undergone basic education will make him
aware of problems in life. Poverty and unemplyment, problems he has faced in
life. He has been told in 7th standard somewhere, our country has such a
political structure. so many villages are wiithout basic amenities. So many
ppl are undeucated or unemployed. HE knows the strengths and weaknesses of
the country. Given proper resources and channels he is infinitely better
suited to manage the country than these mafiosos. Catch hold of Laloo prasad
yadav and ask him something about world economics. He'll puke on hearing the
words!!!
I agree that putting a qualification on the job, overrides
principle of democracy itself, that every person is equal and needs to be
given a fair chance. You know what the qualification for a Indian president
is???
1. He should be minimum so many years of age (*)
2. He should
not be mentally retarded.
Hell, that could be anyone. I find a beggar
who matches the criteria, back him with all the mafia manpower that i have
and file a ballot paper. You have to elect him!!!! That is exactly what we
are doing!! We are electing beggars. illeterate, uncharacterestic, not at
all suited for the job, BEGGARS.
(*) Ppl argue that the age criteria is
meant for experience in life. Person of that age is suited to make
decisions. Hell. Take the beggar. Will you agree to his decisions. All I see
is a country going to ruins and there is not a thing we can do about it!!
Hell, I can think of stuff to add to that list. The person needs to
know about his job. He needs to know the political structure. He needs to
know manners!! He needs to know peer negotiation. He needs to know
Leadership qualities. He needs to know to manage people. He needs to know
Problem Analysis, from both sides of the problem. He needs to have a vision
for a country. Most of All, He needs to think about the good of the country.
Think of the country as a company. the citizens as the ppl to be
seviced, the customers. Think of the leader as the manager of the company.
It is his skill that co-ordinates matters, that satisfies clients and moves
the company forward. He identifies the skilled ppl in his company and gives
them due responsiblities. He analyses, thinks and acts for the good of the
company. His personal life is different. The company is his job. similarly
think of prime-ministership as a JOB. There is a clear correlation.
If you can't do it, you are fired. The power for which shold rest
with us, ppl who are eventually affected. if we want to fire a government,
we need to go through 20 different rules ,loopholes in which are clearly
evident. Moreover, a similar government comes to power.
We need RADICAL
development. It is about time. We are too passive about this thing. We need
a revolution. Why can't we have qualifications for the job?? england,
considered a democracy did'nt give women the right to vote until some 80-90
yrs ago. Bending the rules of democracy is justified, if it has a profound
improvement on the lives of ppl.
do your
creative part as a responsible citizen.and persuade others
too
That i will endeavor to do. I will be as true to my
country as anyone can be. But we have to fight the ppl who don't let you do
it, right??
I am not suggesting that this solution will work best, but
atleast it is something of a solution rather than being a passive
audience.
Pl excuse me if i have been rude, or used inappropriate
language,
Anand.
-----Original Message-----
From:
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Sent: Sunday,
May 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: <<green
youth>> Re: Reply to Anand
hi..
actually i am
surprised to see the shallowness of anand's mail.dont know why people are
coming forward with such short cuts as a solution(?) to the
crisis we are facing.tired of movies like yuva,muthalvan.. and what does
these 'learned people' mean? who decided their syllabus? what kind of
'learning' is suitable for leading a country? and how the hell
can someone even think abt giving the responsibility of a democratic nation
to certain peopl just because they had enough money to do an MBA? oh, i'll
tell you, some of the dumbest people i have ever met are from the HR dept of
MNC's, all 'great' MBA s. dear boy, this is not a bollywood film goin on.
better have some sense.do your creative part as a
responsible citizen.and persuade others too. forget guns and MBAs.
regards,
sandhya.