-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rajeendra Kumar wrote: > Quite in keeping with your "ethiquities". > When you lie, try to make it believable. You don't know a thing about > mapping IPs. BSNL doesn't allow such local mapping. And learn this, > Gmail doesn't carry sender's IP. You don't know if it is Sancharnet or > Dataone? Then, what do you know?
Dont be authoritative on thinks you dont know. You may be a budding expert. I am explaining it for other list members Message Headers & X-IP fields are widely used in internet to identify User contributions & User locations to give Location specific services. while you are giving google.com in browser it changes to google.co.in by taking IP as an input Parameter For Gmail & Yahoo users There is are options for viewing Full email Headers. See a simple explanation of Email Headers here <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=29436&topic=8263&security=1> Finding IP's are verymuch used in spam identification techniques. GeoLocation Mapping etc an GeoLocation Map for the webviews of Greenyouth Email list is available at <http://www2.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth> Rajeendra Kumar says "Gmail does not carry sender IP" is because he is so much believing in email privacy policies. but in a lot of his messages you can simply find an X-Originating-IP field like what I found If you Geolocated That Data You can simply Find the Place as Calicut & it is related to National Internet Backbone. 1000s of tools are available on line for that ( i am using a custom commandline script) Dear Rajeender, Since the issues become technical than content let me counter in that way. You are misleaded by Gmail Privacy Policy <http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=26903> This is flawed for three reasons: 1. An IP address is not personal information by any reasonable definition of that term 2. While the HTTP step is obviously not covered in the SMTP protocol standard and a received header recording it is technically not mandatory, both by common consensus and to be consistent with the spirit of RFC2821 <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html> a proper header is at the very least courteous and 3. Gmail's own approach to this alleged privacy issue is inconsistent What do I mean by that last statement? Check the sample received headers from a Gmail sent not via the Gmail web interface but using an email client like Mozilla Thunderbird, and submitted via Gmail's inbound MSA. There is a simple technique too by using googles SPF records. IP Location is city specific Not Provider Specific. Your IP is Allocated with National Internet back bone & It is calicut Specific. > Disgustingly stupid. Who do you think you are? Cybercop? All These are Public data & Under Public Domain. I tracked the Location of message because In a non-tech list you tried to criminalise me by FUDing (Fear , Uncertainty, Doubt) about cyberstalking. So I differentiated both by taking your message as an example. just remember, location of messages nay not linked with user locations. it only mean that that IP is accessed the page(may be a proxy) for sending the message. It only talks about an instance. We may not using all these data available in public domain for our purposes. I cant agree with limiting that to "cybercrop" or Microsoft or google. The Public data with Read Right access Creates the frame for a social technologies that owned by the Society. Anivar - -- Anivar Aravind moving Republic Peringavu.P.O Thrissur-18 Kerala http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/about -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGa88fF+jWtLmEaycRAjgRAJ0c7VL6l+xxO8FwAfJS8w4/wah/6ACZAeyP oqQL+1kIRPM8lUQt/kdBt+E= =O7XV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ greenyouth mailinglist is the activist support mailinglist for kerala To post to this group, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
