but, why does somebody need a mask to post to this list.. is he that afraid of revealing his identity.. using a mask is being cowardly..
On 6/10/07, Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rajeendra Kumar wrote: > > Quite in keeping with your "ethiquities". > > When you lie, try to make it believable. You don't know a thing about > > mapping IPs. BSNL doesn't allow such local mapping. And learn this, > > Gmail doesn't carry sender's IP. You don't know if it is Sancharnet or > > Dataone? Then, what do you know? > > Dont be authoritative on thinks you dont know. > > You may be a budding expert. I am explaining it for other list members > > Message Headers & X-IP fields are widely used in internet to identify > User contributions & User locations to give Location specific services. > while you are giving google.com in browser it changes to google.co.in by > taking IP as an input Parameter > > For Gmail & Yahoo users There is are options for viewing Full email > Headers. > > See a simple explanation of Email Headers here > < > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=29436&topic=8263&security=1 > > > > Finding IP's are verymuch used in spam identification techniques. > GeoLocation Mapping etc an GeoLocation Map for the webviews of > Greenyouth Email list is available at > < > http://www2.clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth > > > > Rajeendra Kumar says "Gmail does not carry sender IP" is because he is > so much believing in email privacy policies. > > > but in a lot of his messages you can simply find an X-Originating-IP > field like what I found > > If you Geolocated That Data You can simply Find the Place as Calicut & > it is related to National Internet Backbone. 1000s of tools are > available on line for that ( i am using a custom commandline script) > > Dear Rajeender, > > Since the issues become technical than content let me counter in that way. > You are misleaded by Gmail Privacy Policy > <http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=26903> > > This is flawed for three reasons: > > 1. An IP address is not personal information by any reasonable > definition of that term > 2. While the HTTP step is obviously not covered in the SMTP protocol > standard and a received header recording it is technically not > mandatory, both by common consensus and to be consistent with the spirit > of RFC2821 <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html> a proper header is at > the very least courteous and > 3. Gmail's own approach to this alleged privacy issue is inconsistent > > What do I mean by that last statement? Check the sample received headers > from a Gmail sent not via the Gmail web interface but using an email > client like Mozilla Thunderbird, and submitted via Gmail's inbound MSA. > > There is a simple technique too by using googles SPF records. > > IP Location is city specific Not Provider Specific. Your IP is Allocated > with National Internet back bone & It is calicut Specific. > > > > Disgustingly stupid. Who do you think you are? Cybercop? > > > All These are Public data & Under Public Domain. I tracked the Location > of message because In a non-tech list you tried to criminalise me by > FUDing (Fear , Uncertainty, Doubt) about cyberstalking. So I > differentiated both by taking your message as an example. just remember, > location of messages nay not linked with user locations. it only mean > that that IP is accessed the page(may be a proxy) for sending the > message. It only talks about an instance. > > We may not using all these data available in public domain for our > purposes. I cant agree with limiting that to "cybercrop" or Microsoft > or google. The Public data with Read Right access Creates the frame for > a social technologies that owned by the Society. > > Anivar > > - -- > Anivar Aravind > moving Republic > Peringavu.P.O > Thrissur-18 > Kerala > http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/about > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGa88fF+jWtLmEaycRAjgRAJ0c7VL6l+xxO8FwAfJS8w4/wah/6ACZAeyP > oqQL+1kIRPM8lUQt/kdBt+E= > =O7XV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- Deepak P http://deepakp7.googlepages.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ greenyouth mailinglist is the activist support mailinglist for kerala To post to this group, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
