I like to add -people over the profit of the new social movements. I am writing about the crisis of party politics.It can't represent the peoples aspirations effectively.In this neo-liberal period,market rationality has become the political rationality.And also state's functions have been pluralised now.The role of political parties have been changing.Electoral politics sees people just like any other consumer.I use the term most of these political parties are more or less representing the interests of corporate houses.It speaks about peoples problems only in election time.After reaching office,they are forgetting the interests of the peoples interests.After the welfare era ,especially,the parliamentary politics of india expressing the crisis very sharply.The left parties are using corporate populism effectively.The earlier safety net politics of land distribution has been sidetracked now in their ruling pockets. I am not against electoral calculations. Narmad's crisism-you can get best picture from Chihraroopa's palit interview(with achin vanaik,K.M.venugoplan posted it in green youth forum). The immediate relief-all these movements give new meaning to the society.it expands peoples political imagination. No movements can solve all the problems immediately.please note the history of all these anti-systemic movements,for eg.third internationalist experiments of communist parties,anti-colonial movements,and our recent experiences of Zapatista. and our own experiments of indian anti-status quo movements. no establishment is not confined to state only.it has a total presence in life.I like to use the aggressive use of bio-power.In this era of neo-liberal period,especially,in post-colonial countries,state reduces the life of its citizens into a category of homo sacer.civil society ,most often,its mute witness. I believe that this is a period of open discussions,where age/sex/identity are no hindrances. There are many movements,at least to understand their languages.
--- salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what is wrong in electoral calculations? (you didnt > say electoral benifits). > what is wrong in electoral political system? > where is the immediate relief? narmada? chengara? > (how long is not immediate?) > what kind of a serene long march movement devoid of > the elements of > establishment you are craving for at this age > (probably 30+) for a grand > social change? > does the establishment signify something related to > state only? > > > On 3/23/08, C.K. Vishwanath > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Recently,In our political context,the role of > > political parties didn't much enthusiasm in all > over > > the world.in indian context as well,upper > caste-middle > > class elements (eg.CSDS surveys).The political > parties > > are not thinking beyond electoral > calculations.many > > political scientists > > saw the failure of indian party system.They have > just > > become a part of the electoral political > system.People > > are just passive agents in this process. > > But,there are new social movements,their profit > over > > people politics has captured new > imaginations.But,many > > of these new social movements are in the trap of > > rights discourses.After the immediate relief,they > > become the part of the establishment. > > Hilari wainright asks certain important questions > > regarding political parties. > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: CK Vishwanath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:34:02 +0000 (GMT) > > Subject: Fwd: [foil] Rethinking Political Parties: > An Interesting > > Intervention > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. > Join them > now.<http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_groups_7/*http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups> > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Sukla Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 06:45:32 +0000 (GMT) > > Subject: [foil] Rethinking Political Parties: An > Interesting Intervention > > Rethinking Political Parties > > > > February, 11 2008 > > > > By Hillary Wainright > > Source: TNI / Red Pepper > > > > The need for radical social change is pressing and > the > > desire for it widespread. Traditionally, political > > parties have been the means of giving shape, > > leadership and coherence to such desires. But in > > present circumstances they are simply not up to > the > > task. There's never been a golden age for parties > of > > the left but there have been periods - the 1920s > up > > till the late 1960s - when the majority of people > > desiring change in a broadly socialist direction > would > > be members or supporters of mass socialist or > > communist parties. > > > > The situation now is that by far the majority of > > people actively pursuing goals of social justice, > > equality, deeper democracy, a social and > > environmentally sustainable economy and a > > demilitarised politics are politically active > without > > being members of political parties. I am too. > > > > Like many others, I'm not anti-party. If I lived > in > > Italy, Norway or Germany, for instance, I'd > probably > > join Rifondazione Comunista, the Socialist Left > Party > > (SV) or Die Linke. But I would not see party > activity > > - at any rate not in the forms that it > conventionally > > takes - as my main focus. > > > > Yet the sum of extra-party, movement-oriented > activity > > does not somehow add up to political change, even > if > > it were more adequately co-ordinated. We cannot > point > > to 'social movements' to get us out of a tight > spot. > > It should be clear by now that movements come and > go > > and cannot be evoked as some self-evident answer > to > > the problem of creating effective agencies of > social > > change. > > > > At their most effective, progressive social > movements > > radicalise public consciousness. Generally, > however, > > they are unable to give these shifts in > consciousness > > a wider political coherence. This means that the > > desire for change that such movements stimulate > can be > > politically ambivalent, tapped by the right if > these > > hopes don't get political expression and coherent > > alternatives from the left. > > > > Perhaps we need to experiment with hybrid forms of > > 'movement party' organisation, especially in a > context > > in which the nation state, the traditional focus > of > > political parties, can only be one of many focuses > of > > political struggle. It is clear from experience, > > however, that so-called movement parties provide > no > > simple answer. We've watched in dismay the > movement > > dynamic behind parties such as the German Greens, > and > > more significantly the Brazilian Workers Party > > nationally, being subordinated to the conservative > > pressures of conventional electoral politics, > state > > institutions and the financial markets. > > > > The unconscious foundations of political behaviour > > > > This frustration prompts me to stand back and > > investigate some of the basic concepts involved in > our > > thinking about change. Consider, for example, > concepts > > of knowledge and its social organisation, of power > and > > its plural sources, of representation and > alternative > > models and, more fundamentally, of agency - how do > we > > now interpret for our own times Marx's famous > remark > > about men making history but not in conditions of > > their own choosing? > > > > Just as the unconscious mind can determine a > person's > > behaviour, so with institutions: their behaviour > can > > be shaped by unacknowledged assumptions rooted in > > their history. And just as individuals wanting to > > break from damaging patterns of behaviour try to > > subject those unconscious processes to critical > > analysis, so with organisations: the capacity > > consciously to innovate requires the > identification of > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. 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