>"these half ignorant statements make for the way Muslims are
discriminated against in the walled city and driven into self-
ghettoisation"
Are the muslims of this country, at least in many parts,"self-
gettoised "by their choice?
If any body is making this observation seriuosly,I'm afraid that it
may be either due to half ignorance or out of  wariness toward the
community. This is almost like the RSS people saying that Muslims
always want to be different and hence they should be treated like
second class citizens.
It is a pity that we still need proof of the selectively celebrated
kind of half-truths and half-ignorances?for example, like the "traffic
problem in Jamia", "cusomers not paying","address being given wrongly"
so on and so forth?
Venu.K.M
On Apr 8, 9:02 am, "Ranjit Ranjit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi
> that was not a piece written/analysed by me. i forwrded one piece.
> however, it wont take so much time for a person living in delhi to
> understand the inherent anti-muslim sentiments looming large in the minst of
> people (esp Hindus)
> while searching for a job, rented house dalits and muslims always face the
> wrath of caste HIndus..
> ur whole existence is questioned by these modern morons who live in the
> world of caste/religious prejudices
>
> yea we have provided them with areas specifically to place them .. perhaps
> enjoyed and hegemnised by them also... we all enjoy ghettoised
> hegemonies.(?!!)
> and moreover, i dont think people here in greenyouth make virtual
> vigils only after making  "serious" analyses. it's abloggy piece and i feel
> it initiates one into such a process of analysis. one can attempt and come
> up with better "secular" analysis too
>
> regards
>
> On 07/04/2008, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dear Ranjit
> > Ghetooised Muslim Communities is a study by itsefl. Pizzas are not
> > delivered in Yusuf Sarai as well - vice versa - the most popular non-chain
> > foodie joints inDelhi are runby Mussalmans
> > there is definite discrimination against Muslims,not on the terms of your
> > reportage - these half ignorant statements make for the way Muslims are
> > discriminated against in the walled city and driven into self-ghettoisation
> > Pleasee refrain from making such deep-throated statements without serious
> > analysis. It might interestyou to know that most foodie joint ownersand
> > workersin the friendscolony shops you are talkingabout might beMuslims,
> > including franchise owners,
>
> >  On 07/04/2008, Ranjit Ranjit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Fast-food chains don't deliver in Delhi's Muslim ghetto
>
> > > Fast-food chains like Domino's and McDonald's usually refuse home
> > > delivery in Jamia Nagar (in Delhi city)even though this dominantly Muslim
> > > neighbourhood, famed for its Jamia Islamia University, is close to their 
> > > New
> > > Friends Colony (NFC) outlets. By the way,
> > > Jamia Nagar is not just another unplanned stinky ghetto--it has wide
> > > roads, spacious houses, and proper addresses. (See the story: Jamia Nagar 
> > > -
> > > Delhi's Rich Muslim Ghetto)
>
> > > "We don't deliver there," was the reply when The Delhi Walla called up
> > > Domino's (011-26933951-56) at NFC. Different responses on different calls:
> > > "we are sorry", or "we haven't started our service there yet." Ditto with
> > > McDonald's. "There are areas we don't
> > > deliver to and Jamia Nagar is one of them," says the lady manning the
> > > McDelivery desk. According to McDonald's India North & East, "McDelivery
> > > ascertain the delivery area on various internal assessments including the
> > > convenience and safe accessibility of
> > > the area within the permissible timeframe." OK, fair enough.
>
> > > It takes less then 10 minutes to drive to Jamia Nagar from McDoanld's.
> > > So is the place not safe enough? An unusually forthcoming employee at
> > > Domino's said, "It's not a good area. We deliver there only to special
> > > customers."
>
> > > Who are these mysterious special customers?
>
> > > At least author Ms. Rakshanda Jalil, a Jamia Nagar resident who recently
> > > had luminaries like Khushwant Singh and Sheila Dikshit (Delhi Chief 
> > > Minister
> > > no less) attending her book launch, is not special enough. She couldn't 
> > > coax
> > > Domino's to deliver Veggie
> > > Delight with extra olives for her two daughters. "They go to faraway
> > > blocks of New Friends Colony and were delivering as far as Sarita Vihar 
> > > but
> > > they won't come here which is closer", says Ms. Jalil.
>
> > > Now listen to the outlets' unofficial excuses: "customers there don't
> > > pay", "addresses are usually given wrong", and--this takes the pizza--"The
> > > Jamia University students forcibly take pizza boxes from delivery boys."
>
> > > Then why is Pizza Hut able to deliver, and deliver successfully, to
> > > Jamia Nagar? A quick phone call put things in perspective. Yes,
> > > Pizza Hut does deliver in Jamia Nagar. Yes, they have never faced
> > > problems. But sorry, they don't deliver after 7 pm. Reason? Traffic jam!
> > > Really? That's laughable. Jamia is essentially an university campus with
> > > verdant grounds and quiet libraries. Hardly the stuff traffic jams are 
> > > made
> > > of.
>
> > > Ms. Jalil says, "Nobody uses the M word. But clearly, they don't go 'out
> > > there' because a different sort of
> > > species resides out there!"
>
> > > Achha, those Mussalmaans!
>
> > > -------------------
> > > from:
>
> > >http://thedelhiwalla.blogspot.com/2008/04/dateline-jamia-nagar-no-piz...
>
> > > --
> > > Ranjit
>
> > --
> > Bobby Kunhu
>
> --
> Ranjit

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