http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/30/3_former_gitmo_prisoners_to_address
Three Former Gitmo Prisoners to Address US Audience in Historic Event

This weekend, three former Guantanamo prisoners will talk for the first time
to a US audience about their prison experiences. We speak to Almerindo
Ojeda, UC Davis professor and principal investigator with the Guantanamo
Testimonials Project, a UC Davis-based effort to catalog accounts of
prisoner abuse. [includes rush transcript]

*Almerindo Ojeda*, Professor of linguistics at UC Davis and principal
investigator of the Guantanamo Testimonials Project.

*AMY GOODMAN: *The US prison camp at Guantanamo has become a symbol of the
so-called "war on terror" since it was created more than six years ago. Over
800 men and boys, so-called "enemy combatants," have been held without
charge at Guantanamo since January 11, 2002. Not one of these prisoners has
been put on trial. Hundreds have been released without charge after years
behind bars. Four prisoners have committed suicide; many others have tried
to do that, as well.

This weekend, three former Guantanamo prisoners will talk for the first time
to a US audience about their prison experiences. The event is being
organized by the Guantanamo Testimonials Project, a University of
California, Davis-based effort to catalog accounts of prisoner abuse. I'll
interview the three former prisoners via videoconference from Sudan. All
three men—Adel Hassan Hamad, Salim Adam and Hammad Ali Amno Gad Allah—were
classified and imprisoned as enemy combatants and held without charge for
years before being released without explanation.

Of the three, Adel Hamad is the most well known. He was a hospital
administrator in Sudan when he was arrested and imprisoned at Guantanamo for
over five years. During his imprisonment, activists here in the United
States had started a campaign to secure his release called Project Hamad.
The group's website <http://projecthamad.org/> included a popular video that
told Adel Hamad's story. it featured family members, like his
brother-in-law, Adil Al-Tayib.

   *ADIL AL-TAYIB: *[translated] The way we knew Adel, his situation and his
   life, we did not believe that Adel would be imprisoned for five years. Now
   five years have passed, and no one knows what will happen next. We hope that
   Adel will come back and be united with his family again.


*AMY GOODMAN: *The web video put out by Project Hamad also included actor
Martin Sheen.

   *MARTIN SHEEN: *Hello, I'm Martin Sheen. We Americans must not allow fear
   to overcome our faith in the laws and values that have made this country
   great, like the right to a fair hearing in a court of law, like the right to
   know and respond to the charges against you, like the right not to be
   detained indefinitely, even by order of the President. All of these rights
   are protected by the United States Constitution.

   I've been asked to speak to you about Adel Hamad, Detainee no. 940 in
   Guantanamo. Mr. Hamad was abducted from his home nearly five years ago
   during a sweep of foreigners in Pakistan and sent to Guantanamo, where he is
   still being held without a court hearing, even though all the evidence
   gathered confirms he is an innocent man, a hard-working hospital
   administrator. Meanwhile, Adel Hamad's wife and four children in Sudan
   continue to suffer without him. She has written to President Bush asking for
   justice, but has received no reply. No one should be detained without a
   court hearing just on the word of a president.


*AMY GOODMAN: *Actor Martin Sheen, talking about former prisoner Adel Hamad,
who was held at Guantanamo for five years. He's one of the three former
Guantanamo prisoners I'll be interviewing from Sudan via video conference
tomorrow at University of California, Davis.

Almerindo Ojeda is a professor of linguistics at UC Davis and principal
investigator of the Guantanamo Testimonials Project. He joins us here in Los
Angeles. Welcome to *Democracy Now!*, Professor Almerindo.

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *Good to be here.

*AMY GOODMAN: *Talk about this Guantanamo Testimonials Project.

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *The Guantanamo Testimonials Project is an initiative that
we created in 2005, and the goals of that initiative are to gather testimony
of prisoner abuse at Guantanamo, to organize it in meaningful ways, to make
it widely available online, and to preserve it there in perpetuity. We have
been at it for three years, and we've gathered hundreds of testimonies from
prisoners and guards, lawyers, all sorts of people that have had firsthand
experience at the prison.

*AMY GOODMAN: *And what inspired this?

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *What inspired this, well—

*AMY GOODMAN: *The event that is happening this weekend.

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *Oh, an old student of ours in Davis went back to the
Sudan to work. He was a Sudanese American and became a journalist there. And
he got to know three former prisoners from the Sudan, and he contacted me
and saying if we wanted to talk to them. And we said, "Of course."

*AMY GOODMAN: *And what was their response when you first contacted these
prisoners? How long have they been out? How long have they been out of
Guantanamo?

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *They've been out since 2007, so a year, and a little bit
more, perhaps. They were imprisoned for years, some of them without any
explanation—really none of them with any credible explanation. And they're
anxious to tell their stories to the American public.

*AMY GOODMAN: *Can you give some description of these three men?

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *Sure. One of them is Adel Hamad, whom you talked about
before. He was a hospital administrator, indeed. He claims to have been
tortured in Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan before being transferred to
Guantanamo. He was then tried on secret evidence and cleared for release in
2004, but action wasn't actually released until 2007.

*AMY GOODMAN: *So he was held for three more years?

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *After being cleared in these dubious trials that they get
in the prison.

Another one is Hammad Amno. He claims to have witnessed prisoner abuse at
Guantanamo, beatings. There apparently was some kind of protest after the
Koran was withdrawn from a prisoner who was held in isolation. So he started
protesting, and the whole wing of the prison started protesting. And he
witnessed—Hammad Amno did—guards come in and beat prisoners, he claimed.

And the third is Salim Mahmud Adam. He worked at an orphanage and was
arrested also through Bagram, taken to Guantanamo. And he claims to have
been witness—to have witnessed harsh interrogations with beatings, the loud
music, the flashing lights and the whole works.

*AMY GOODMAN: *And what has been the response on campus to this
unprecedented event, this kind of bridge between UC Davis and Sudan?

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *Very supportive. The university has been very supportive
of the effort, and they have facilitated all the technical connections and
publicity for the event, so I'm very happy.

*AMY GOODMAN: *You head the Center for Human Rights at UC Davis?

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *That's right. That's right. We started it at about the
same time as the Guantanamo Project in 2005. We were trying to look at human
rights in the Americas, understood broadly, North, Central and South. And
our first focus was the war on terror and its effects on the American
continent, from Maher Arar in Canada to the effects on the indigenous
populations in South America that are an easy target on the so-called war on
terror.

*AMY GOODMAN: *Maher Arar being the Canadian citizen—

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *Correct.

*AMY GOODMAN: *—who was picked up at Kennedy Airport on his way home from
family vacation—

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *On his way back to Canada, right.

*AMY GOODMAN: *—and he, through extraordinary rendition, was sent off to
Syria, where he was tortured, and after ten months released back in the
United States.

*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *Exactly.

*AMY GOODMAN: *Now the Canadian government has just awarded him $10 million.


*ALMERINDO OJEDA: *But we won't talk to him, and we won't recognize his
plight in this country.

*AMY GOODMAN: *Well, I want to thank you for being with us. As we brought
this part of the discussion, we're going to turn to a clip of one of the
more well-known prisoners at Guantanamo. His name is Sami al-Haj. He spent
nearly six years—well, over six-and-a-half years in prison, almost six years
at Guantanamo itself, without charge or trial, before being released earlier
this month. He had been on a more-than-yearlong hunger strike to protest his
imprisonment. After arriving in Khartoum, he spoke out against the treatment
of prisoners at Guantanamo in an interview that was broadcast on Al Jazeera.


   *SAMI AL-HAJ: *[translated] I'm very happy to be in Sudan, but I'm very
   sad because of the situation of our brothers who remain in Guantanamo.
   Conditions in Guantanamo are very, very bad, and they get worse by the day.
   Our human condition, our human dignity was violated, and the American
   administration went beyond all human values, all moral values, all religious
   values. In Guantanamo, you have animals that are called iguanas, rats that
   are treated with more humanity. But we have people from more than fifty
   countries that are completely deprived of all rights and privileges, and
   they will not give them the rights that they give to animals.

   For more than seven years, I did not get a chance to be brought before a
   civil court. To defend their just case and to get the freedom that we're
   deprived of, they ignored every kind of law, every kind of religion. But
   thank God. I was lucky, because God allowed that I be released. Although I'm
   happy, there is part of me that is not, because my brothers remain behind,
   and they are in the hands of people that claim to be champions of peace and
   protectors of rights and freedoms.

   But the true just peace does not come through military force or threats
   to use smart or stupid bombs or to threaten with economic sanctions. Justice
   comes from lifting oppression and guaranteeing rights and freedoms and
   respecting the will of the people and not to interfere with a country's
   internal politics.


*AMY GOODMAN: *Sami al-Haj, interviewed by Al Jazeera from Khartoum, Sudan,
where he was released. He was imprisoned by the United States for over six
years. Most of that time, he was in jail at Guantanamo in Cuba. This
is *Democracy
Now!*, democracynow.org, the War and Peace Report. The interview we will do
with other Sudanese prisoners who've just been released from Guantanamo over
the last year will take place at University of California, Davis on Saturday
night at the Sciences Center. For more information, you can go to our
website at democracynow.org.

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