Welcome Asma! Hope All enjoy her presence!
On 6/21/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yea emperors rule the roost in all "shining projects" > > but ants destiny cant always be written from the same shining pen > > ruptures create history > so cant predict what will happen in > > i would like to belive in ants and their creation of history > let the emperors dream their own > > > On 6/21/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> asma's peom was about ant's productivity. emperors know how to make >> the ants proud in their jobs. :( >> >> it is unlikely to vote down the shining 'impulsiveness' in gy as >> claimed by damodar prasad. :) >> >> On 6/21/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > fired.....tishoooooommmmmmmmmm.... >> > >> > GREENYOUTH SHINING!! >> > >> > once such a simlar campaign in India had a long fan followng >> > but the people of India voted it down >> > >> > so instead of this blah blah about "greatness" (read Asma's poem) >> > let us come down to earth and do the blah blah blah blah >> > >> > best >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 6/21/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi Asma. >> > > >> > > I can imagine you will be laughing out loudly just glancing through >> the >> > mails in the thread "please approve asma". That is green youth. >> > > >> > > I am not idealizing. But then the impulsiveness & immediacy in >> recahing >> > out to each other is exciting. >> > > But I've not a seen a welcome like this anywhere. >> > > >> > > Even the above statement will not go uncontested. >> > > >> > > need not wait...fire >> > > >> > > damodar >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 6/20/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Thanks Anil. >> > > > >> > > > Asma Siddiqui >> > > > >> > > > On 20 Jun, 17:55, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > dear damodar,... >> > > > > >> > > > > read more ยป >> > > > > >> > > > > but is s not me who asked " *is anyone forcefully keeping you >> here? "* >> > > > > *i think there is no need for me tell u that personal is >> political* >> > > > > ** >> > > > > * i m just replying, not personally attckng any one. * >> > > > > *but what can i do if u feel so....?* >> > > > > ** >> > > > > *I never calld anyone "chamelon"* >> > > > > *if that was not a personal atttack, then i would like to say that >> > HITLER s >> > > > > much better option dear.......* >> > > > > ** >> > > > > *and thanks for informing me my "problem"* >> > > > > *i would definetly consult u in future also ( dont take it >> otherwise. >> > it s >> > > > > friendly comment only)* >> > > > > *no personal issue with u or any other greenwallah here* >> > > > > ** >> > > > > *dont wanna make u dig more and waste ur presious time* >> > > > > *so best wishes!!* >> > > > > >> > > > > ** >> > > > > >> > > > > On 6/20/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > *CD revoltuon/ padanakouthukam---Night vigial and press >> conferences- >> > so ur >> > > > > > problem lies else where. * >> > > > > >> > > > > > If someone says "its really cruel to be not cruel here"--- for >> me >> > > > > > it sounded like adolf hitler's most infamous quote: "I do not >> see >> > why man >> > > > > > should not be just as cruel as nature."- *Adolf Hitler* >> > > > > > *I will reflect on my errors. * >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > > *Frankly,let me ask: waht pleasuer you derive from such persoanl >> and >> > > > > > demoralizing attacks. But happy to note that you get such wanton >> > pleasures. >> > > > > > * >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > > *prasad* >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > > ** >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 6/20/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> the green people should respct a chamelon. it s not an abnormal >> > animal >> > > > > >> dear >> > > > > >> for the those who "refuse to grow" (typical of kerala) shall be >> > proud of >> > > > > >> not being a chamelon >> > > > > >> but chamelon survives bz of that >> > > > > >> and it s not just a patanakuatukam >> > > > > >> think beyond CD revolution >> > > > > >> > > > > >> in a forum like this wher one needs to attach >> disclaimers always >> > > > > >> otherwise as in night vigil one needs to call press conferences >> > later and >> > > > > >> disclaim..... >> > > > > >> > > > > >> *>>>is anyone forcefully keeping you here?* >> > > > > >> > > > > >> dude there are better ways of destruction displayed by fascists >> > > > > >> but they never asked this question (perhaps.... who knows??!!) >> > > > > >> i feel gujarat may be a better place than mallustan.... >> > > > > >> Hail Damodar !!! >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On 6/19/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> *Temporality/Identity* >> > > > > >>> ** >> > > > > >>> members in this group inhabit multiple temporalities( >> depending on >> > their >> > > > > >>> time of entry and 'actual' locations). Somebody at some times >> > > > > >>> demand a linear homogenous (modern) time through historicizing >> the >> > very >> > > > > >>> group. >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> Is it inevitable that we should archive all instantaneous >> > responses? Is >> > > > > >>> it ethical? >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> Also, is it ethical to ask for formal explanations? If even a >> > single >> > > > > >>> member has the feeling >> > > > > >>> of being excluded shouldn't others ( moderators included) take >> > that >> > > > > >>> feeling seriously? >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> what is the point in claiming identity for contestaions/ >> > interventions in >> > > > > >>> the group at different >> > > > > >>> 'times' ? >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM, damodar prasad < >> > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> yes true to the core of Indian nationalism. u can put >> anything >> > (as >> > > > > >>>>> claimed by ) >> > > > > >>>>> very accommodative and democratic >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> *that s why even if the child leaves kerala in the 60s or >> 70s it >> > > > > >>>>> utters "GREATNESS"* >> > > > > >>>>> *loooonggg live...!!* >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> *This child is like Gunter Grass Tin Drum Child :OSCAR, who >> > refuses to >> > > > > >>>> grow. * >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> and regarding cruelity, *it s really cruel to be not cruel >> > here!!* >> > > > > >>>>> green or grey, left or right >> > > > > >>>>> we r bound by binaries, though as ahmed claims that WE all >> > discuss >> > > > > >>>>> post-modernism >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> *very philosophical.pls. parapharse. * >> > > > > >>>> *by the way, is anyone forcefully keeping you here? * >> > > > > >>>> *such violations of rights we wont allow* >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> *dude, i m no modern/progressive don* >> > > > > >>>>> *no such claims. * >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> *Buddy, attach a disclaimer always * >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> *but patcha matramalla niramayullathennu ariyam athramatra* >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> *renju says he knows not only green but several other >> colours. >> > renju, >> > > > > >>>> have u seen chamelon changing colors?* >> > > > > >>>> ** >> > > > > >>>> *prasad * >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> best >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > > > >>>>>> From: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > >>>>>> Date: Jun 19, 2008 9:56 PM >> > > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a >> member! >> > > > > >>>>>> To: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> thats precisely what i intended pointing out >> > > > > >>>>>> identities are fluid and thats healthy >> > > > > >>>>>> i am not apologetic for where i was born and what my >> > credentials are >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> moreover, >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> imagine the kind of cruelty (at the same time appearing as >> > very >> > > > > >>>>>>> modoernist and progressive) , hyocracy slotting child in >> > nationalist >> > > > > >>>>>>> category. >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Deep inside, "hollow hollow man".. >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> damodar >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>> On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> booby, >> > > > > >>>>>>>> lucky you.. no baggage...how free ur now, just imagine.. >> > really >> > > > > >>>>>>>> lucky >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> prasad >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> what about the child from nowhere? I leftKerala when I >> was >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> born... and where do I stand... and right now I do not >> where >> > I belong >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from Pakistan: Pakistan is great! >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from India: India is great!! >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from China: China is great!!! >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> *child from "communist Kerala": China is great (?!)* >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Renju, >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> when did u leave Kerala? Late 60s or mid 70s. >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Child from Kerala says (period wise) >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1980- 1989 - east germany, poland and soviet union is >> great >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1990-2000 - (post tianmen) China & cuba is bountiful >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2000-2006- Venezuela is as beautiful as allapuzha >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2006-08- US without hyde act is the promised land >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> We all belive that We r the end of life >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> so We are GREAT.. >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> great!!!! >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> best >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sending u a personal mail, >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to believe I understand ascriptive >> > politics... may >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> be i am wrong >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but for me green youth seems more democratic than >> grey >> > youth in >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> terms of the discussion >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> i like warriers challenging my notions, which are of >> > course >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> subjective from where i come from..... and i do not >> like >> > to believe i am >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> right... in the sense of a unversal truth that >> defines >> > hegemony >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for me the personal is always political and have >> suffered >> > thanks >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to that and in a masochistic sense, i enjoy that >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS" >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture, >> > dear >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed. >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and no offence intndd.... >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the >> group >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let new members join >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let those who r afraid of long mails run away >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law >> and >> > order >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> after all who s above the LAW !! >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi bobby, >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to >> a >> > new >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> member to >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words >> > like >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc. >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> though he confessed to afthab that there is no >> clear >> > cut rules >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate >> his >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegations on >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all >> these >> > words >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filthy!!! >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed rafeek j >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu < >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - >> is >> > this a >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> war on credibility >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > between green and grey youth, couched in the >> > languages its >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couched in? >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > am i missing the trees for the woods? >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > can someone give me some picture please? >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear >> examples >> > before >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this branding >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> effort >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ormakalundayirikkanam"!! >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics >> should >> > be >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modernist, >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> anti-romantic and red >> (non-green) environmental >> > ? >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far >> as >> > i know >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> but...... this is a biggggg- Hide quoted text - >> > > > > >> > > > > - Show quoted text - >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> -- >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ Darkness is equally beautiful. 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