While mentioning another autobiography Vasanth Moon's Growing up Untouchable in India, let me finish the Yeat's quote that Damodar used,
"Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world" There is a fear of chaos if the caste system is upturned, sanctioned by the smritis and its peddlers across the board. On 27/08/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well. that's why you are here uninhibited by a primordial self. Thats why > conversing becomes fruitful without developing any attrition. > > But the issue is about the people outside the caste system and so-called > "development models", like Kerala model, well-categorized by the > develomentalist discourse as "outliers". > > The autobiographies have become the markers of our time. It is the people > outside the varna system who artculates the deep dismays of living out in a > regimented caste order. Let me just mention one: Government Brahmana by > Aravind Malagatti. > > Is de-casting possible? does not it negate the politics of caste-based > assertions? > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:22 PM, neelan neelakandan < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dear Prasad, >> You know what a " decasting " life some of us lived. But such factors , >> which are beyond one's control shouldnt be a qualification/disqualification >> in discourses. Its something like disarming one! >> I dont want to go autobiographical in a public domain. >> Neelan >> >> --- On *Wed, 27/8/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Sanni Kapikkad and savarna peace in Google >> groups >> >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:31 PM >> >> >> Well, Neelan sir you are very forthcoming. Caste in not a choice of >> anyone unless we believe in some im-mmaterial divinity (material divinity is >> also there!!). The modernist secular self unitedly holds to conveniently to >> erase traces of caste in appearances.Don't mistake surface to the core!! The >> class is a cover-up *in this respect* to avoid debates on the caste -dom >> that one has been domineering for long. By the way Its all going. Yes the >> cataclysm is not a fantasy, the tremble is more than real, as yeats said: >> Things fall apart, center cannot hold..and the ceremony of innocence is >> drowned". As you may very well-know Class was once again invoked typically >> by the dominating castes to dissect into caste configuration by way of >> creamy-layer. >> >> What is actually sought from the holders of caste power and the >> propertariat is to open up, share and equalize the resource, don't hold to >> what is waning out... basically nothing radical, it is a demand for >> bourgeois -civil rights. The movement for reservation is only a movement >> towards de-reservation. De-reserving the constituencies kept secure for ones >> own genetic generations. >> >> By the way I had read you quoting Foucault recently. In Madness and >> Civilization, he mentions about Ship of Fools.. Ya, ship of fools.. It >> speaks at large on our contemporary issues than any metaphors. >> >> damodar prasad >> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:33 AM, neelan neelakandan < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I am not a dalit , but not by my personal choice. >>> Neelan >>> >>> --- On *Tue, 26/8/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Sanni Kapikkad and savarna peace in Google >>> groups >>> To: "Greenyouth" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "sanil v" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Tuesday, 26 August, 2008, 8:10 PM >>> >>> >>> Let me suggest n academic exercise for those interested/involved >>> in social scientific studies of media. >>> >>> Can you check whether there is a SINGLE dalit member who is active in >>> Fourth estate Critique? >>> >>> My hypothesis ( assumption , perhaps) is that >>> there won't be any. >>> >>> And this is not a surprising 'find' but what is 'natural' about >>> all >>> left friend circles!! >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Some friends told me that Sanil >>> > forwarded my response to his take in Fourth Estate Critique and >>> > couple of people there are irritated by it. They are particularly >>> irritated >>> > by my reference to Sanni Kapikkad. >>> > >>> > I took Sanil's writing as a public document and responded to >>> > the text (irrespective of my personal friendship with him) >>> > out of the immediacy of the political context. >>> > I am happy that Sanil showed the academic decency to >>> > forward it to the forum where I am not present. >>> > >>> > I am more happy to learn that reference to Sanni Kapikkad >>> > troubled the savarna 'peace' prevailing in so called >>> "left" >>> > private spheres.. >>> > >>> > Intense political struggles will disrupt the elitist >>> > consensus , however they try to keep a safe distance to it. >>> > >>> > Let us celebrate it >>> > Cheers!! >>> > -- >>> > Dileep R I thuravoor >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dileep R I thuravoor >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Download prohibited? 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