its easy to caricature a position by tyin into some purportedly postmodernist argument about 'no reality outside representation'. i wasnt sayin anythin like that. i was referring to readin strategies. an object of 'popular culture' like the joke has to read first and foremost to identify what readings it lends itself to. our individual readings come later, as a critique of the meanings that are attributed which is an action outside the realm of the picture. these are just levels of interpretation, thats all. i think our conversation shudnt take up so much space :)
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Reply to Ratheesh To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:39 PM If there is no reality outside the picture, it is neither there in the picture as well. I agree that we should look at the history of the representation. But what does that histroy say to us? And which histroy are you talking about? The dominant version of the history? If it is so, do you comply to that version as an intellectual? What if I say the images in the pictures look more like that of Brahmins and Nairs than that of Dalits? Would you disagree? If you do disagree, which side of the ideological divide are you partial to? 2008/10/22 ratheesh r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the ontology that needs to be sought is the ontology of the image itself, i think. and not ontology of a 'reality' outside the image. how one reads the image is related to history of representations itself, isnt it? --- On Wed, 10/22/08, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [GreenYouth] Reply to Ratheesh To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:08 PM I perfectly agree with Ratheesh. But we quickly tend to conflate unpalatable images with lower caste/lower class and vice versa, when there is no tangible or ontological evidence for this in the images. Second important question that I raised is this: is it possible to utter politically correct jokes? I guess these are questions which need answers. At the same time all jokes need not be palatable to us. I was just questioning the rational with which people jumped at the humor of these particular images in the thread. -- James Michael -- James Michael --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
