There is of course a crucial difference between a Nazis and this Neo-Nazi... During the Nuremberg trials many Nazis did not deny their hate towards Jews and the crime they committed due to that hate.. But this war mongering neo-Nazi never felt ashamed of the denial of his muslim hate, while being itched 24 x 7 by it...
Regards Afthab Ellath On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Murali K Warier <[email protected]> wrote: > The Eminent Journalist has thrown down the gauntlet. Since my respect for > him is limitless, I have to take some time off to jot down a few things. > > 1) A nation's engagements with other nations should be conditioned on what > the relationship does to its interests. The danger of bringing in such > considerations as morality into the equation is the certain impracticality > of applying it uniformly, and consequently the inevitable charge of > hypocrisy. The Gulag never came in the way of our being the most intimate > ally of the Soviet Union. Hindi and Chini were bhai-bhai even as the corpses > piled up by the millions in the Mainland. Why did our diplomats and leaders > sup with Saddam Hussein (he later went on to become the icon and martyr of > the Islamist-Leftist alliance) all the while he was gassing the Kurds and > the Shiites by the thousands? Should the GoI ask American multinationals > operating in India to scale back their operations because the US imposed an > unnecessary and bloody war on Iraq? Should the Bangladeshi mission at > Chanakyapuri be bumped off because of the country's genocidal oppression of > the Hindu minority? Should Mahinda Rajapakse be denied entry into the > Guruvayoor temple because of the Killinochi offensive? Is it OK to keep > buying oil from the decadent Saudi regime which denies even the most > fundamental rights to its citizens? Why is Cuba, ruled by a genocidal > megalomaniac an important ally? Should we sever all diplomatic relations > with the Iranian mullohcracy which hangs young women for the 'crime' of > pre-marital sex? Why is Fiji in the diplomatic radar at all, when the Indian > origin Mahendra Choudhary had been denied his rightful primeministership? > Did we take out the moral compass when dealing with the kleptocracies of > Africa? We used to roll out the red carpet for the most odious dictators of > the world during the heydays of NAM. Without going into the merits of the > Gaza situation, it can be said unequivocally that it should have no bearing > on India-Israel relations. > > 2) The most bizarre thing about the morality argument is that it should > come from the Left. Pakistan is a country that has imposed four wars on > India, is directly involved in the murder of thousands of its citizens both > civilians and security personnel and has orchestrated the ethnic cleansing > of half a million Indian citizens from the Kashmir Valley. Not only is > Israel a country that hasn't done any of these things, but whose assistance > has helped our country <http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/feb/08kargil.htm>at a > crucial juncture. Still, you can find any number of Leftists arguing > for better and friendly relations with Pakistan, more hugs, candles and > sweets at the Wagah, more frequent buses to Muzaffarabad etc. Why did the > Leftists and the media drool over the sartorial exuberance of the Butcher > of Gilgit > <http://web.archive.org/web/20050522020511/http://terrorism.reallybites.com/musharraf.htm>when > he came calling for the Agra summit? Forget statecraft, the leftists never > apply moral principles to their own lives. We haven't seen planeloads of > FOSA-FOIL guys returning after the Iraq invasion of 2003 or even after the > 2004 'Jesusland' election. They continue to cling to the coattails of the > Big Satan, serving its minions, the Evil Corporations. Arundhati Roy hasn't > yet returned the money she got from the investment bankers Man Group PLC, > the foulest of the foul capitalists. As with everything else, the Left's > selective application of morality is nauseating, to say the least. India > should continue doing the right thing, which means move forward with > expanding her ties with Israel. > > 3) The Palestinian - Israeli conflict is an issue between the constituent > parties and should be resolved amicably among themselves. I know that the > preceding statement is a bit too naive and motherhood, as it ignores such > nuances as Article 13 of the Hamas Charter which explicitly rejects all > negotiations to settle the issue, and declares that the resolution can come > only through jihad (read total destruction of Israel and the Jewish people). > Still it is their problem and it is up to them to find a solution. Making > India's foreign policy captive to the issue will help nobody and harm some. > > 4) Keeping with the national character, some sections of the media > commentators and political pundits have overplayed the importance of the > friendship with Israel. Sure, our relations with Israel will yield lots of > benefits to the nation. However, it is foolhardy to think that Israel will > fight the war on our behalf. True, both India and Israel face existential > threats from groups that share the exclusivist, annihilationist ideology of > jihadism. But the similarities end there. The environs under which the two > nations operate differ vastly. We will have to formulate our own course of > action and fight our wars, alone. True, the friendship with Israel will > yield both tactical and strategic advantages. But it is not a panacea for > the scourge of jihadi terrorism. That some people oversell it doesn't mean > the idea itself is without merit. > > 5) None of the above, however, means that India should do absolutely > nothing about the Gaza situation. It should continue making strongly worded > statements condemning the disproportionate use of force by Israel, urging it > to minimize civilian casualties etc. After all, this is the best weapon in > our arsenal which we use when jihadi terrorists from across the border land > in our cities and butcher our citizens by the hundreds. We should spare our > best and most effective weapon for our friends, the Palestinians too. > > 6) My suggestion that the Mumbai jihadists who attacked the Chabad Centre > may have been motivated by anti-Semitic feelings made one gen'lman fly off > the handle and suspect whether I was a neo-Nazi. Now the Journalist doubts > whether I am a Zionist. I must be the sole living member of this rarest of > the rare species - a la the Dodo of the Animal Crackers cartoon strip - > Zionist Neo-Nazi! Anyways, my suggestion should have surprised nobody with a > modicum of knowledge about the present day Middle East/Muslim societies - > not the least those who claim to have read so much of 20th century history, > forget Banu Qurayza, the Khaybar Jews, al-Jahiz, Sirhindi and the entire > Medieval history. Now, you don't have to take the words of a Zionist > Neo-Nazi like me, your beloved freedom fighters have themselves > revealed<http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1218869&pageid=0>that the > Jewish center was their prime, no-failure target. > > 7) I do not wish to enter into a lengthy debate about the Gaza invasion or > the Israel-Arab conflict, because this is one topic on which a rational > discussion with the Left is simply impossible (to be fair, not just the > Left). Not that there are a lot many topics out there that can be rationally > discussed with the Left anyways. I will just point out that the Eminent > Journalists and Activists who are so eager to chant 'we are all Hamas' never > bother to read the Hamas > Charter<http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp>. > Nor do they notice such nuggets of annihilationist Jew hatred put up for > public display on the organization's own website (while urging Muslims > across the world to attack Jews): > > *…a Jewish adolescent boy in an Australian synagogue, a Jewish minister > in the Georgian government, a Jewish businessman at the New York Stock > Exchange, and an illiterate Jew from the Ethiopian desert… they all belong > to the same gang and the same nation, apart from the rest of humanity.* > > (Oh yeah...they are only anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic, aren't they?) > > No surprises here, however. They don't read the LeT > charter<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashkar-e-Toiba>either. > > Cheers, > Murali > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't > want to hear. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
