*'Of course, we should understand the Professors' dilemma. They, after all, have families back home. Maybe they are mortally afraid of a visitor from the local madrassa. Maybe they are too terrified about the midnight knock. We understand. But please, spare us the sanctimony'*
I really don't know how to respond to the Criminal Reason of this Indian skinhead. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Murali K Warier <[email protected]> wrote: > > What about the terror organizers of Samjhota express blasts... Who will > > prepare the list of suspects and ask the other to handover? India or > > Pakistan? Or will the list be prepared jointly? > > The short answer is, India. The Samjhauta blast occurred at a place where > the jurisdiction of Indian courts and law enforcement runs. Therefore, it is > incumbent upon the Government of India to seek the extradition of any > individual, foreign or Indian, involved in the crime, who is not a resident, > form the respective countries and try them according to Indian law. > Interestingly, the Pakistan government has just asked for the extradition of > Samjhauta accused. Without any basis, one ought to say. > > > Uniformed men from ISI or from Indian military > > Intelligence or from both? > > The despicable attempt to hyphenate India and Pakistan on terror > sponsorship is the product of a sick mind and ideology, to put it mildly. No > need to emphasize that it is a bogus comparison, totally orthogonal to all > established facts. > > The BJP's defense of Abhinav Bharat, without doubt is an abominable act > that should be condemned in the strongest terms by all who believe in the > rule of law. It is one thing to provide the accused with legal assistance, > which is the right of every accused, and a totally different one to attempt > to subvert the course of law. No finger pointing at others who defend > convicted terrorists like Afzal Guru or glib talk about > innocent-until-proven guilty theory will change that. That said, the > comparison of Abhinav Bharat to LeT, JeM and other Pakistani terrorist > organizations is an unutterably brainless act. Further, the perpetrators of > Malegaon blast are behind bars, and as the latest reports indicate, the law > enforcement agencies are vigorously pursuing the case. Contrast this with > the less than a slap on the wrist that terror perpetrators generally get in > Pakistan. > > Let me add one observation I made during the exchanges here. The mode in > which many people think here seems to be one which swings from one extreme > to the other. So the thinking goes: "this guy doesn't believe in peace > marches. So he must be a war monger" or "this guy talks ill about Jihadi > terrorism. So he must be a crypto-Hindutvavadi". The reality is, as Brahma > Chellany > says<http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns%214913C7C8A2EA4A30%21960.entry?sa=246262713>, > there are a hundred options between complete inaction and total war. What we > lack is the political will to exercise any of them and a debilitating sense > of political correctness that interprets any mention of these options as war > mongering. > > I am not for such feel good measures as peace marches not because I don't > believe in peace. Not even because they are ineffectual - most political > mobilizations achieve next to nothing after all. My beef with the peace > marchers is that their attitude quite often comes across as arrogant and > insulting to the victims. Maybe they don't mean it. But it is still true. > *Look at this: We need support..with media coverage, with people from all > walks of life to come to our meetings and lend their voices to combat the > dogs of war. We have a common enemy. *As if war has been imposed on "us" > by aliens from planet Thedus in the constellation of Ursa Major! It was > Pakistan that imposed all the four wars. Count on the jihadist-military > complex to initiate the fifth one. Or this: *we urge both the governments > to take all appropriate initiates to contain and root out the activities of > all fanatic and terrorist groups and catch and punish perpetrators of any > acts of terror in their respective countries to make the subcontinent safe > and secure for all*. As if India is another SEZ of the terror industry > like Pakistan! The hyphenation is utterly phoney and concocted and an insult > to the memory of the tens of thousands perished in Pak sponsored terrorism. > Or this one, which is not just an insult to the dead, but to the > intelligence of every living being: *Both the governments should > immediately set up a Joint Action and Investigative Agency for total > cooperation and mutual assistance to address and overcome the problem of > terrorism effectively and without any further delay*. The only analogy is > the STF inviting Veerappan to assist in the fight against the Veerappan > gang. The peace marches and candle light vigils serve only to divert > attention from the real issue, which is Pakistan's state reared terror > infrastructure, and dilutes any effort to punish the perpetrators of the > Mumbai carnage. By the way, why don't any of the professors or peace > activists say anything about punishing the guilty? Oh, I forget, they > believe only in peace and recoil in horror at the mention of punishment, > which is after all, violence. > > Another presiding myth perpetuated by the jholawala brigade is that lasting > peace can be built by engaging the civil society in Pakistan. It is a > brilliant idea. The only problem is where to find the civil society in > Pakistan. Who are the constituents? The military which owns 70% of the > country? The non-entities that light candles at the Wagah cross? The > Taliban, that is, the vast body of the madrassa student community? At any > rate, whatever left of the civil society quickly rallies behind the > jihadist-military complex, as evidenced by the recent events. Pervez > Hoodbhoy has written > <http://www.newsline.com.pk/NewsJan2009/cover2jan2009.htm>a seminal > article on the near complete Saudi-isation of the Pakistani society. As far > as I can see, Hoodbhoy is not a frothing-at-the-mouth Hindutva fascist. > > Of course, we should understand the Professors' dilemma. They, after all, > have families back home. Maybe they are mortally afraid of a visitor from > the local madrassa. Maybe they are too terrified about the midnight knock. > We understand. But please, spare us the sanctimony. > > Cheers, > Murali > > On Jan 18, 11:21 am, Afthab Ellath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't > want to hear. > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
