He is not just a skinhead. He is an intelligence guy. Its a waste of time to respond to anything he says
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:11 AM, damodar prasad <[email protected]>wrote: > *'Of course, we should understand the Professors' dilemma. They, after > all, have families back home. Maybe they are mortally afraid of a visitor > from the local madrassa. Maybe they are too terrified about the midnight > knock. We understand. But please, spare us the sanctimony'* > > I really don't know how to respond to the Criminal Reason of this Indian > skinhead. > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Murali K Warier <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > What about the terror organizers of Samjhota express blasts... Who will >> > prepare the list of suspects and ask the other to handover? India or >> > Pakistan? Or will the list be prepared jointly? >> >> The short answer is, India. The Samjhauta blast occurred at a place where >> the jurisdiction of Indian courts and law enforcement runs. Therefore, it is >> incumbent upon the Government of India to seek the extradition of any >> individual, foreign or Indian, involved in the crime, who is not a resident, >> form the respective countries and try them according to Indian law. >> Interestingly, the Pakistan government has just asked for the extradition of >> Samjhauta accused. Without any basis, one ought to say. >> >> > Uniformed men from ISI or from Indian military >> > Intelligence or from both? >> >> The despicable attempt to hyphenate India and Pakistan on terror >> sponsorship is the product of a sick mind and ideology, to put it mildly. No >> need to emphasize that it is a bogus comparison, totally orthogonal to all >> established facts. >> >> The BJP's defense of Abhinav Bharat, without doubt is an abominable act >> that should be condemned in the strongest terms by all who believe in the >> rule of law. It is one thing to provide the accused with legal assistance, >> which is the right of every accused, and a totally different one to attempt >> to subvert the course of law. No finger pointing at others who defend >> convicted terrorists like Afzal Guru or glib talk about >> innocent-until-proven guilty theory will change that. That said, the >> comparison of Abhinav Bharat to LeT, JeM and other Pakistani terrorist >> organizations is an unutterably brainless act. Further, the perpetrators of >> Malegaon blast are behind bars, and as the latest reports indicate, the law >> enforcement agencies are vigorously pursuing the case. Contrast this with >> the less than a slap on the wrist that terror perpetrators generally get in >> Pakistan. >> >> Let me add one observation I made during the exchanges here. The mode in >> which many people think here seems to be one which swings from one extreme >> to the other. So the thinking goes: "this guy doesn't believe in peace >> marches. So he must be a war monger" or "this guy talks ill about Jihadi >> terrorism. So he must be a crypto-Hindutvavadi". The reality is, as Brahma >> Chellany >> says<http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns%214913C7C8A2EA4A30%21960.entry?sa=246262713>, >> there are a hundred options between complete inaction and total war. What we >> lack is the political will to exercise any of them and a debilitating sense >> of political correctness that interprets any mention of these options as war >> mongering. >> >> I am not for such feel good measures as peace marches not because I don't >> believe in peace. Not even because they are ineffectual - most political >> mobilizations achieve next to nothing after all. My beef with the peace >> marchers is that their attitude quite often comes across as arrogant and >> insulting to the victims. Maybe they don't mean it. But it is still true. >> *Look at this: We need support..with media coverage, with people from all >> walks of life to come to our meetings and lend their voices to combat the >> dogs of war. We have a common enemy. *As if war has been imposed on "us" >> by aliens from planet Thedus in the constellation of Ursa Major! It was >> Pakistan that imposed all the four wars. Count on the jihadist-military >> complex to initiate the fifth one. Or this: *we urge both the governments >> to take all appropriate initiates to contain and root out the activities of >> all fanatic and terrorist groups and catch and punish perpetrators of any >> acts of terror in their respective countries to make the subcontinent safe >> and secure for all*. As if India is another SEZ of the terror industry >> like Pakistan! The hyphenation is utterly phoney and concocted and an insult >> to the memory of the tens of thousands perished in Pak sponsored terrorism. >> Or this one, which is not just an insult to the dead, but to the >> intelligence of every living being: *Both the governments should >> immediately set up a Joint Action and Investigative Agency for total >> cooperation and mutual assistance to address and overcome the problem of >> terrorism effectively and without any further delay*. The only analogy is >> the STF inviting Veerappan to assist in the fight against the Veerappan >> gang. The peace marches and candle light vigils serve only to divert >> attention from the real issue, which is Pakistan's state reared terror >> infrastructure, and dilutes any effort to punish the perpetrators of the >> Mumbai carnage. By the way, why don't any of the professors or peace >> activists say anything about punishing the guilty? Oh, I forget, they >> believe only in peace and recoil in horror at the mention of punishment, >> which is after all, violence. >> >> Another presiding myth perpetuated by the jholawala brigade is that >> lasting peace can be built by engaging the civil society in Pakistan. It is >> a brilliant idea. The only problem is where to find the civil society in >> Pakistan. Who are the constituents? The military which owns 70% of the >> country? The non-entities that light candles at the Wagah cross? The >> Taliban, that is, the vast body of the madrassa student community? At any >> rate, whatever left of the civil society quickly rallies behind the >> jihadist-military complex, as evidenced by the recent events. Pervez >> Hoodbhoy has written >> <http://www.newsline.com.pk/NewsJan2009/cover2jan2009.htm>a seminal >> article on the near complete Saudi-isation of the Pakistani society. As far >> as I can see, Hoodbhoy is not a frothing-at-the-mouth Hindutva fascist. >> >> Of course, we should understand the Professors' dilemma. They, after all, >> have families back home. Maybe they are mortally afraid of a visitor from >> the local madrassa. Maybe they are too terrified about the midnight knock. >> We understand. But please, spare us the sanctimony. >> >> Cheers, >> Murali >> >> On Jan 18, 11:21 am, Afthab Ellath <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't >> want to hear. >> >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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