The already liberated women or women who are at the stages of liberatingthemselves, are not the ones who are free from all kinds of abusing and molesting situations. I meant the people who are liberated by their mentality. That doesnt mean that their situations are totally comfortable, but are better no doubt. They know how to save them from picturised as victims. I dont assign any hierarchy among the women by saying such statement. But women who have thought about feminism etc. or who have got some enlightenment in some way, would be responding to the abusing situations in different ways. And the discourse of sexuality and gender among the so called intellectual feminism etc. would make the concept of abuse itself as a different one.That`s what I wanted to mention. It doesnt mean that that uneducated and poor women claiming such dignified autonomy depends only on your(our) condescension? The social ranking was not the intention of the statement I said, it was just an attempt to talk about the difference, and the importance of various experiments in the mode of women`s activism and empowerment programs.
Actually Brahmanical patriarchy and upperclass patriarchy have terrible abusing and torturing nature. All sections of women undergo that issue with existing social structure. Definitely thats why any woman from any caste/ class/ race can understand the problems of other women from any caste/class/race, 'if they are gender sensitive and feminist oriented'. I was trying to say this sensitivity and orientation is sometimes( not always sure) easy to avail for the educated/employed//upper-middle class/ideological/political/social -individual women and groups ofthem. There are exceptions that the otherwise women be more active and sensitive to women`s issues, and this is a very general reading that I`m saying. Anyway I was not trying to differenciate women, though its a reality that has to be discussed. There are various theories of identity politics etc.recently emerging on this as we know. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM, venukm <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Again, I wish to ask a question to Maya in relation to her statement > (seemingly half cynical, if I am permitted to take that freedom to > comment): > "Having autonomy over own bodies and not being labelled as victims - > are > meant for *already liberated women*.( educated/employed//upper-middle > class/ideological/political/social -individual women and groups of > them)".. > You were suggesting that uneducated and poor women claiming such > dignified autonomy > depends only on your(our) condescension? > My answer to this question will certainly be in the negative. > Besides, how better is the state of the so called "liberated"middle > class women ?How better is the status of the upper caste women as > citizens, while the majority of this section are confined to secluded > living as female subjects of the Brahmanical patriarchy? > Therefore, a commonality of issues concerning all women could be > noticed, when we come to the question of liberation, whatever be the > differences in the degree and nature of their sufferings. > This qualifies them to get rallied along with other marginalized > sections, including dalits and the working class. > Regards, > Venu. > > > > > > On Mar 6, 10:00 pm, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: > > And this is an intervention to raise the anti-woman laws and court > > proceedings. To demand an 'athivega stree saudruda kodathi' too. ( As far > as > > all the people are individualistc/political/ideological/bold enough to > solve > > everything themselves, ther is a need to ahv some law and institutions > like > > a court etc! ! ) Hope some people might have heard about 'penkodathi' > > organised in Calicut by Anweshi ajitha and party. And there is a national > > penkodathi program as well in Bangalore in June. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Anil M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes Maya, on the fire fighting mode, it may not be that easy, and > > > eventually we need to depend on institutions like police, court, > women’s > > > commission etc, though most often they too speak same lines with sree > ram > > > sena > > > > > There was a disturbing report in HT couple of months back about > widespread > > > complaints by women cadres about sexual abuse by their own party men in > some > > > Naxalite organizations. As the report was based on police sources, I > don’t > > > know whether it is true or just a planted story or a police version. > Even if > > > it is partially true, imagine the plight of those women. Where do they > go > > > and complain? Tragically enough they have to go to the state apparatus, > > > against which they are fighting, to seek justice. > > > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Praveen A <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> 2009/3/4 Maya <[email protected]>: > > >> > sorry, the attachment didnt work for the last sent one > > >> Maya, > > > > >> I can't read the attachment (same goes for anyone who don't have > > >> pagemaker). More people would be able to see it if it is sent as a pdf > > >> document or as an image. > > >> -- > > >> പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > > >> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! > > >> <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? > > >> (as seen on /.) > > >> Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! > > >>http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign > > > > -- > > Maya S. > > > -- Maya S. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
