What Venu indicated and Viswanath pointed out are very very significant questions. It also reveals the inherent limits of some civil society movements, which can be taken under wings- right or left.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath < ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about the right wing > co-option of their agenda.earlier,zizek pointed out its dangeorus > consequences. > > --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath <aftha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Afthab Ellath <aftha...@gmail.com> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the > FOSS Manifesto > > To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com > > Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM > > Anivar, > > > > I think the questions Venu has raised still stands... > > Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or appreciate > > BJP for the first adopter of FOSS manifesto? > > > > Regards > > > > Afthab Ellath > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, > > Anivar Aravind <anivar.arav...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm <kmvenuan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I would rather not be party to this treacherous game > > of sanghis to > > > > > muster support from people in the cyberworld. > > > > > One is tired of being asked to see those ugly > > face(s) of fascism in > > > > > every other blog carrying adsense links! > > > > > > > > What I usually suggest is to click on each and > > every advani add. so > > > > the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited and BJP > > will loose > > > > money :-) > > > > BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes. > > > > > > > > But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software & Open > > standards to > > > > Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First adopter of the > > points we > > > > put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the parties will > > also adopt > > > > more and more points from the FOSS manifesto released by > > civil > > > > society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy Grounds .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anivar > > > > > > > > > Just let them answer these questions repeatedly asked > > : > > > > > Who killed thousands of innocent people in Gujarat > > and Orissa with > > > > > actve connivance of state machinery? > > > > > Who perpetrate violence and against women , christians > > and muslims in > > > > > Karnataka recently,especially in the coastal district > > of Dakshina > > > > > Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene or other? > > > > > Whio spread lies like India Shining in last > > elections,whereas, India > > > > > was actually stinking, and sinking in shame with all > > these crimes > > > > > against humanity and the media hypes to cover-up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind <anivar.arav...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > >> From: Venkatesh Hariharan <ven...@gmail.com> > > > > >> Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM > > > > >> Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the > > FOSS Manifesto > > > > >> To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear Friends, > > > > >> > > > > >> Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on > > FOSS in education, # > > > > >> 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely > > shareable, FOSS based > > > > >> knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian > > languages), have been > > > > >> strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision > > document that was unveiled > > > > >> today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, > > Shri LK Advani. The 40 > > > > >> page vision document is at: > > > > >> > > > > >> http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf > > > > >> > > > > >> The press release is at: > > > > >> > > > > >> http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ > > > > >> > > > > >> I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: > > > > >> > > > > >> Venky > > > > >> ===== > > > > >> > > > > >> > http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour.... > > > > >> > > > > >> Saturday, March 14, 2009 > > > > >> BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open > > standards > > > > >> > > > > >> The BJP, the largest opposition in India has > > released an IT Vision > > > > >> document that endorses open source and open > > standards. Many of the > > > > >> points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India > > that we put up online > > > > >> last week have been incorporated in this > > document. > > > > >> > > > > >> This document was unveiled by none other than > > Shri. LK Advani, the > > > > >> BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a > > quick read of the 40 page > > > > >> document and am impressed with how thorough and > > comprehensive it is. > > > > >> As a long time supporter of free and open source > > software, I am > > > > >> delighted to see a major Indian political party > > endorse it. However, I > > > > >> am even more delighted to see that this > > endorsement is rooted in a > > > > >> comprehensive vision for India's development. > > A big chunk of the > > > > >> credit for this document should go to Shri. > > Sudheendra Kulkarni (an > > > > >> alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an > > alumnus of IIM > > > > >> Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal > > Behari Vajpayee > > > > >> when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri > > Bora is Head of the > > > > >> IT Cell of the BJP. > > > > >> > > > > >> I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization > > theme that my friend, > > > > >> Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has been > > incorporated in this > > > > >> document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto, some of > > my key passions on > > > > >> open standards (that we don't pay for > > standards like weights and > > > > >> measures in the physical world, so why should we > > pay for standards in > > > > >> the digital world?) have been reflected. Also, as > > a co-founder of > > > > >> IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in an > > attempt to bridge the > > > > >> digital divide, I am happy to see that the BJP has > > promised to create > > > > >> a National Mission for Indian Language Computing. > > > > >> The CPI(M), another national party in India has > > always been a strong > > > > >> supporter of our stand on open source, open > > standards and our fight > > > > >> against software patents. We are hopeful that > > other political parties > > > > >> will also take cognizance of the FOSS Manifesto > > and incorporate the > > > > >> same into their IT plans for India. > > > > >> > > > > >> With the country scheduled to go to polls next > > month, we now have a > > > > >> broad consensus emerging around the use of open > > source and open > > > > >> standards. This is great news for all of us who > > believe in free and > > > > >> open source software! > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Network mailing list > > > > >> netw...@lists.fosscom.inhttp:// > lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Any responsible politician should be encouraging a > > home grown Free > > > > >> Software industry because it creates the basis for > > future jobs. > > > > >> Learning Windows is like learning to eat every > > meal at McDonalds.- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home > > grown Free > > > > Software industry because it creates the basis for future > > jobs. > > > > Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at > > McDonalds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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