--- On Sat, 14/3/09, C.K. Vishwanath <ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: C.K. Vishwanath <ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts key sections of the  
> FOSS Manifesto
> To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 7:05 PM
> 
> 
> More than that,the political hindutva -the modern day
> avatar of exclusive cultural nationalist project is very
> much sophisticated to accommodate any kind of technological
> advances very easily.sudheendra kulkarni who gave secular
> fundamentalism to advani to poluplarise that term in indian
> politics,represents a new generation leaders of
> techno-nationalist hindutva project.like swapan das gupta
> ,sudheendra kulkarni was in a left-liberal past.
The other question is that dominance of hindutva politics in indian 
technocratic world.
> 
> --- On Sat, 14/3/09, damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP accepts
> key sections of the  FOSS Manifesto
> > To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 6:33 PM
> > What Venu indicated and Viswanath
> > pointed out are very very significant questions. It
> also
> > reveals the inherent limits of some civil society
> movements,
> > which can be taken under wings- right or left. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath
> <ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo..com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > normally,civil society activism dosen't bother about
> > the right wing co-option of their
> agenda.earlier,zizek
> > pointed out its dangeorus consequences.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Afthab Ellath <aftha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: Afthab Ellath <aftha...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [fosscom] BJP
> accepts
> > key sections of the  FOSS Manifesto
> > 
> > > To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com
> > 
> > > Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 5:22 PM
> > 
> > > Anivar,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I think the questions Venu has raised still
> stands...
> > 
> > > Should we rather raise these questions to BJP or
> > appreciate
> > 
> > > BJP for the first  adopter of FOSS manifesto? 
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Regards
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Afthab Ellath
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM,
> > 
> > > Anivar Aravind <anivar.arav...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, venukm <kmvenuan...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > I would rather not be party to this
> treacherous
> > game
> > 
> > > of sanghis to
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > muster support from  people in the
> cyberworld.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > One is  tired of being asked to see those
> ugly
> > 
> > > face(s) of fascism in
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > every other blog carrying adsense links!
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > What I usually suggest  is to click on each and
> > 
> > > every advani add. so
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > the poor Indian website owner will get Benefited
> and
> > BJP
> > 
> > > will loose
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > money :-)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > BJP must understand Clicks are Not the votes.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > But the Campaign for Promotting Free Software
> &
> > Open
> > 
> > > standards to
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Manifestos are Different. BJP become a First
> adopter
> > of the
> > 
> > > points we
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > put put up in FOSS Manifesto. I hope all the
> parties
> > will
> > 
> > > also adopt
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > more and more points from the FOSS manifesto
> >  released by
> > 
> > > civil
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > society groups . Let Them Compete on Healthy
> Grounds
> > ..
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Anivar
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > Just let them answer these questions
> repeatedly
> > asked
> > 
> > > :
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > Who killed  thousands of innocent people
> in
> > Gujarat
> > 
> > > and Orissa with
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > actve connivance of state machinery?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > Who perpetrate violence and against women ,
> > christians
> > 
> > > and muslims in
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > Karnataka recently,especially in the
> coastal
> > district
> > 
> > > of Dakshina
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > Karnataka under the camouflage of one Sene
> or
> > other?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > Whio spread lies like India Shining in last
> > 
> > > elections,whereas, India
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > was actually stinking, and sinking in shame
> with
> > all
> > 
> > > these crimes
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > against humanity and the media hypes to
> > cover-up?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > > On Mar 14, 3:32 pm, Anivar Aravind <anivar.arav...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> From: Venkatesh Hariharan <ven...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Date: Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Subject: [fosscom] BJP accepts key
> sections
> > of the
> > 
> > > FOSS Manifesto
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> To: netw...@lists.fosscom.in
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Dear Friends,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Key sections of the FOSS manifesto
> (Point # 1
> > on
> > 
> > > FOSS in education, #
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging
> > freely
> > 
> > > shareable, FOSS based
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> knowledge repositories like Wikipedia
> in
> > Indian
> > 
> > > languages), have been
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> strongly articulated in the BJP's IT
> > vision
> > 
> > > document that was unveiled
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> today by BJP's prime ministerial
> > candidate,
> > 
> > > Shri LK Advani. The 40
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> page vision document is at:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> The press release is at:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> I am also enclosing my blog on this
> subject:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Venky
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> =====
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-sour....
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Saturday, March 14, 2009
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> BJP's IT Vision supports open source
> and
> > open
> > 
> > > standards
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> The BJP, the largest opposition  in
> India
> > has
> > 
> > > released an IT Vision
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> document that endorses open source and
> open
> > 
> > > standards. Many of the
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto
> for
> > India
> > 
> > > that we put up online
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> last week have been incorporated in
> this
> > 
> > > document.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> This document was unveiled by none
> other
> > than
> > 
> > > Shri. LK Advani, the
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I
> did
> > a
> > 
> > > quick read of the 40 page
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> document and am impressed with how
> thorough
> > and
> > 
> > > comprehensive it is.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> As a long time supporter of free and
> open
> > source
> > 
> > > software, I am
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> delighted to see a major Indian
> political
> > party
> > 
> > > endorse it. However, I
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> am even more delighted to see that this
> > 
> > > endorsement is rooted in a
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> comprehensive vision for India's
> > development.
> > 
> > > A big chunk of the
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> credit for this document should go to
> Shri.
> > 
> > > Sudheendra Kulkarni (an
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut
> Bora
> > (an
> > 
> > > alumnus of IIM
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to
> Shri
> > Atal
> > 
> > > Behari Vajpayee
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> when Vajpayee was prime Minister of
> India and
> > Shri
> > 
> > > Bora is Head of the
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> IT Cell of the BJP.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> I was happy to see that the Digital
> > Colonization
> > 
> > > theme that my friend,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about
> has
> > been
> > 
> > > incorporated in this
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto,
> some
> > of
> > 
> > > my key passions on
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> open standards (that we don't pay for
> > 
> > > standards like weights and
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> measures in the physical world, so why
> should
> > we
> > 
> > > pay for standards in
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> the digital world?) have been
> reflected.
> > Also, as
> > 
> > > a co-founder of
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in
> an
> > 
> > > attempt to bridge the
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> digital divide, I am happy to see that
> the
> > BJP has
> > 
> > > promised to create
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> a National Mission for Indian Language
> > Computing.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> The CPI(M), another national party in
> India
> > has
> > 
> > > always been a strong
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> supporter of our stand on open source,
> open
> > 
> > > standards and our fight
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> against software patents. We are
> hopeful
> > that
> > 
> > > other political parties
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> will also take cognizance of the FOSS
> > Manifesto
> > 
> > > and incorporate the
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> same into their IT plans for India.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> With the country scheduled to go to
> polls
> > next
> > 
> > > month, we now have a
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> broad consensus emerging around the use
> of
> > open
> > 
> > > source and open
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> standards. This is great news for all of
> us
> > who
> > 
> > > believe in free and
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> open source software!
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Network mailing list
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> netw...@lists.fosscom.inhttp://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >>
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> --
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Any responsible politician should be
> > encouraging a
> > 
> > > home grown Free
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > >> Software industry because it creates
> the
> > basis for
> > 
> > > future jobs.
> > 
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