i think that the issue is more serious. even cpim followers like ND jayaprakash write very seriously. the cisis is so deep rather than mere electoral victory. even in 1977 bengal victory was there. centre-state relations,indian federal system,challenges from mamata banerjee-her immediate response is to dismiss the state govt. what about the change from agrarian economy to industrial economy? the question -how is to develop the productive forces within these realities?
--- On Sat, 30/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Sadanand Menon: What 'reality' did the Left lose > touch with? > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 6:45 PM > whether in elections or in > wars, > the defeated side is BIG > WRONG and the winners is always BIG RIGHT. > > > regards > > Rasheed > > > > > > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:19 PM, > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- On Sat, 30/5/09, C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > From: C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Sadanand Menon: What > 'reality' did the Left lose touch with? > > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 5:23 PM > > > > > > > i have to add here- > > labour aristocracy and petty bourgeoise is the > reactionary > > element in the working class movement.embourgeoisement > is > > the dream of this section.k.marx and engels > are far off > > > > from this dream world. > > working class base is shrinking to such a large > > extent,where class formation is in the imagination of > > leadership rather than in concrete reality. > > the political imagination and its idealogical understanding > from th e roots of third international reaveals the ultimate > truth of working class imancipation has been an open > conflict with liberal democracy.Party vs constituional > authority. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 29/5/09, damodar prasad <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: damodar prasad <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Sadanand Menon: What > 'reality' > > did the Left lose touch with? > > > To: "[email protected]" > > > <[email protected]>, > > "Green Youth Movement" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Friday, 29 May, 2009, 12:04 PM > > > The Left might have become the > > > laughing stock of the nation post elections, but > laugh > > is > > > the last thing we should be doing. It is a matter > of > > > > tremendous concern that a country with such a > vast > > pool of > > > industrial and agricultural proletariat has just > 24 > > Members > > > in Parliament to speak on their behalf. > > > > > > > > > > This is the lowest ever since the first > Parliament of > > > 1952, during which time the strength of the Left > on > > the > > > floor was matched by their extra-parliamentary > > strength in > > > > the field with representative control over > peasant > > and > > > worker organisations and syndicates. Not like at > > present > > > when the low numbers in Parliament is matched by > a > > > drastically shrunk base in representative bodies > of > > > working > > > class interests. > > > > > > So is the Left leadership worried in any way? > From > > the > > > tone of the inner party stock-taking going on in > the > > CPI(M), > > > in Kolkata, Delhi and Thiruvananthapuram; and > the > > > preambles > > > to the forthcoming June 6 meeting of the CPI in > > Coimbatore, > > > it certainly does not seem like any lessons have > been > > learnt > > > or any yardsticks for evaluation have been > evolved. > > > All one > > > hears are strident and arrogant sounds indulging > in > > mutual > > > slanging, just looking for scapegoats to > apportion > > > blame. > > > > > > The question arises, what are the criteria for > > > > self-evaluation that Left parties should be > laying > > down? Is > > > it at all a ‘political’ evaluation to propose > (as > > in > > > Kerala, for example) that the Left was drubbed > due to > > > its > > > poor alliance strategies (particularly with the > > communal > > > People’s Democratic Party of Madhani) or due to > the > > whiff > > > of a financial scam that enveloped it in the wake > of > > > the SNC > > > Lavalin case. How ‘political’ is it to lay > the > > reason > > > for their setback at the door of something as > silly > > as > > > inner-party dog-fights (in this case, the > prolonged > > > spat > > > between Chief Minster V S Achuthanandan and the > CPI(M) > > party > > > Secretary Pinrayi Vijayan)? > > > > > > In other words, these are mere day-to-day events > in > > the > > > > life of any party and stuff on which their > electoral > > > strategies are built. But what should > distinguish > > ‘Left’ > > > evaluation from the rest? Is it enough for them > to be > > stuck > > > > in the rut of the ‘tactics and strategies’ > > discourse? Or > > > is it important that they embark on the route of > a > > > theoretical evaluation which tries to find > answers to > > a > > > whole range of new questions? > > > > > > > Some of the questions that demand answers in a > public > > > sense need enumeration. Like, why is it that in > this > > time > > > and age, the Left is splintered into three — > the > > > CPI, > > > CPI(M) and the CPI(ML)? It has been a good > twenty-five > > years > > > since anyone has even bothered to analyse what > the > > > ideological divisions between these three and > their > > > various > > > off-shoots are. Besides delivering the > conventional > > gyan > > > than the two big CPs are parliamentary and > believe in > > the > > > ballot-box while the ML are extra-parliamentary > and > > > profess > > > the line of ‘armed revolution’, we really > have not > > had > > > either a serious theoretical analysis nor a > > theoretical > > > debate on the reasons for the continued > fractiousness > > > of the > > > Left or why it is so impossible for the splinters > to > > fuse > > > together into a common front. > > > > > > It’s not now enough to admit, like a few > senior > > > leaders of the CPI(M) did, that the party has > lost > > > touch > > > with ‘reality’. We also need to hear what > that > > idea of > > > ‘reality’ is with which they feel distanced. > Is > > it > > > possible that the organised Left has steadily > been > > > losing > > > touch with newly-developing realities, > regionally, > > > nationally and internationally? > > > > > > One has not heard party leaders telling us > > > about, say, climate change or why caste is > > > consolidating in > > > India or how they understand emerging issues of > > gender, > > > ecology or culture. We have not heard from Left > > parties on > > > why they stand opposed to opponents of > mega-projects > > > like > > > dams, SEZs or nuclear programmes who have been > taking > > up the > > > cause of millions of internally displaced people. > We > > have > > > not heard from them on issues of human rights > abuses > > > in > > > India; for example, neither the parties nor > > individuals > > > within it even made a token noise against the > > treatment of > > > someone like Binayak Sen. Even after the initial > > > absurd > > > justifications for what happened in Nandigram, > they > > seemed > > > to lack the courage to face the truth. They have > not > > been > > > able to explain why they need to wait for a > global > > > > capitalist like Tata to develop West Bengal > > industrially > > > before obtaining the ideal conditions for a > > proletarian > > > revolution in the state. > > > > > > The Left parties have not been able to explain > their > > > > holier-than-thou posture, when it is clear that > they > > have > > > devolved into a conservative, inflexible, > > intellectually > > > moribund club, mortally scared of both > self-critique > > > or > > > external evaluation. But one would like to offer > a > > critique > > > from the outside here. It is from Karl > > > Marx who warned us (in ‘The 18th Brumaire of > Louis > > > Bonaparte’) against “doctrinaire > socialism” > > > which > > > “surrenders this socialism to the petty > > bourgeoisie.” > > > This is the ‘reality’ the Left needs to > > > ponder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new > > friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays > and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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