Quote Is international law a radical jurisprudence? Unquote Would one spell out what is the relevant (provision of what) "internationa law"?
But that apart, the fraudulent trick applied here, somewhat comparable with the blatant lie dished out as regards the position of the US State Department on Honduras "coup", is to deliberately distort the essential point made. Quote What is worth noting is that not only the US position vis-a-vis the leaders of the coup on the one hand and the deposed ones on the other has undergone a sea change when compared to the coup in Chile in September 73 and even Venezuela in the recent past in April 2002; now even critics are no longer talking of US complicity in the Honduras coup, they are demanding that US must do enough to get Zelaya back to power! That could have had not been even dreamt of anytime in the past. Unquote And this "change" is evidently caused by Obama taking over the Presidency. Never mind the enormous burden of history. Never mind the tremendous weight of the Congress, the Pentagon, the bureaucracy, the judiciary, the media, the powerful lobbies, entrenched public prejuidices etc. etc. Never mind that Obama is no Kim Il Sung, or Khomeini or even Fidel Castro. Never mind the Right has launched a vicious campaign against him. The loony and lonely Left would train all its guns on Obama in its desperate bid to bring back the hard Right to justify its own otherwise precarious existence. Obviously they'll keep claiming, if possible, Obama is worse than Bush! If not at all possisble, then Obama is equal to Bush. And, "Change"? Phew! Where is the "Change"? And, of course, no acknowledgement of the tremendous hurdles and the dire need to undermine those hurdles, not Obama per se. And equate Obama with such hurdles even when he is visibly under severe attack. For that's the only way how the hard Right can be brought back. Sukla --- On Thu, 13/8/09, Sayan wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sukla Sen<[email protected]> wrote: > [What is worth noting is that not only the US position vis-a-vis the leaders > of the coup on the one hand and the deposed ones on the other has undergone > a sea change when compared to the coup in Chile in September 73 and even > Venezuela in the recent past in April 2002; now even critics are no longer > talking of US complicity in the Honduras coup, they are demanding that US > must do enough to get Zelaya back to power! > > That could have had not been even dreamt of anytime in the past. > > This is of course not to deny that the US has not lived up to such radical > demands and exhortations. Sukla thinks that the demand being made on Obama from the left about Honduras is "radical". Let's actually look at the demands that are being made from the left, to see if they are "radical" or not. See below. > President Obama hit back at critics who say the U.S. not doing enough for > Honduras following a trilateral meeting with President Calderon of Mexico > and Prime Minister Harper of Canada in Mexico today. > > Mr. Obama said those complaining that America has not done enough following > the military coup that resulted in the overthrow of the government of > President Manuel Zelaya on June 28 "can’t have it both ways." As I posted previously: "No one in their right mind is asking for more US “intervention,” a word that sends shivers down the spine of people who give a damn about Latin America. All Obama’s critics want to know is when the US is going to apply sanctions in a manner consistent with foreign affairs norms, international law, and on par with with those meted out by the EU and consistent with the UN." (From the Honduran Resistance website). Is asking Obama to "apply sanctions in a manner consistent with foreign affairs norms" a radical demand? Is international law a radical jurisprudence? Are the EU and the UN radical organizations? ____________________________________ Sukla Sen wrote: [What is worth noting is that not only the US position vis-a-vis the leaders of the coup on the one hand and the deposed ones on the other has undergone a sea change when compared to the coup in Chile in September 73 and even Venezuela in the recent past in April 2002; now even critics are no longer talking of US complicity in the Honduras coup, they are demanding that US must do enough to get Zelaya back to power! That could have had not been even dreamt of anytime in the past. This is of course not to deny that the US has not lived up to such radical demands and exhortations. But the ground of criticism has shifted beyond recognition.] http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/10/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5230498.shtml August 10, 2009 3:01 PM Obama Knocks "Hypocrisy" of Honduras Critics by Anna Aulova President Obama hit back at critics who say the U.S. not doing enough for Honduras following a trilateral meeting with President Calderon of Mexico and Prime Minister Harper of Canada in Mexico today. Mr. Obama said those complaining that America has not done enough following the military coup that resulted in the overthrow of the government of President Manuel Zelaya on June 28 "can’t have it both ways." "The same critics who say that the United States has not intervened enough in Honduras are the same people who say that we're always intervening and the Yankees need to get out of Latin America," said Mr. Obama. The president said the U.S. has done everything it could, including condemning the coup and calling for an immediate reinstating of President Zelaya. "If these critics think that it's appropriate for us to suddenly act in ways that in every other context they consider inappropriate, then I think what that indicates is that maybe there's some hypocrisy involved in their -- their approach to U.S.-Latin American relations," said Mr. Obama. Canadian Prime Minster Stephen Harper supported the statements made by Mr. Obama, suggesting that "If I were an American, I would be really fed up with this kind of hypocrisy." "You know, the United States is accused of meddling except when it's accused of not meddling," Harper said. He went on to say that the latest criticism of the U.S. not doing enough in Honduras comes from the very same people who would condemn longstanding cooperation between Colombia and U.S. for "legitimate security and drug trafficking reasons." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
