>From Joe-






On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM, CK Vishwanath <[email protected]> wrote:

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>DEar vishwanath,
>>below iam scribbling some of my recent concerns  .I am a bit confused by the 
>>way in which stalwarts like zizec and Alan bodiue subscribe to the view that  
>>relgion is the answer to all the perils and  that we have to seek the answer 
>>for all philosophical queries in Bible, paul and Augustine.Where has gone the 
>>left  which had the courage to stand by secular Marxism. If we buy "the 
>>relgion inits 'true' form as panacea for all" argument, what about relgion 
>>like Hinduism of india which as a philosophy justify hierarchical 
>>discrimination based on caste and oppression. . Terry Eagelton is another guy 
>>who leaves no stone unturned in his ferocious and violent defence of 
>>chrisitinaity like a true fanatic.
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>In my own personal experience as catholic in india (before my atheistic phase) 
>which is discriminatory on caste lines and in the mainstream, except inthe 
>safe academic  corridors of  the pretencious  catholic left,works for 
>de-politicisation.I have  experienced  religion as truely retrograde,if if it 
>is devoid of its potential ability to surive as a philosophic entity,and 
>understood as a superstition of the masses. We are people who lived the 
>experience of combined attack by the relgions against ineter religious 
>marriages .Religion as a real life experience is patriarchal, hierarchical and 
>foments bigotry. If relgion is the only answer for the quest to comprehend 
>human essence, as the apogees of god from the left say, and the epitome of 
>human history ( because they say in religion and in its myths man saw his own 
>purified reflection without the wordly blemishes,(forget brahmanism) , then 
>what about feminist criticism of relgion as patriarchal. What about
> the crass superstitions which make 3rd world people depoliticise and 
> slavish.I  don’t deny liberatory impulses associated with certain religious 
> movements at some points in history.But on the whole, as a fullfeldged theory 
> for emancipation how can it help. Above all, what about the dialectics 
> between science and religion at its common level without the Kuhnian 
> post-modern interpolation. Science or say rationaltity is not a mere product 
> of capitalism and enlightemnemnt. It dates back to the crude materialism of 
> Epicurus and all the debates of ancient greek..  Debiprasad chatopadhyaya had 
> shed light on the existence of philosphical materialism in its rationalist 
> 'avtar in the struggles of charvakas of ancient india in their fight against 
> Hindu brahmanism.He also showed us the veiled existence of  materilaist 
> philosphy in the dscourse of many an idealistic schools,despite the pretence 
> of godliness, fearing peresecution from powers that be.Zizeks and the
> likes should even understand that budhism in its corporate phase would be 
> idealistic lamaism, but it was handy in opposing brahmanic caste exploitation 
> in its beginning. so the theory that the realm of spirituality,dating back to 
> antiquity, is the only human edifice worth resorting to is a nonesense.
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>In their rightful indignation at Stalinist bureaucratisation of socilaism,  
>even noble scholastic pursuits in erst-while soviet Russia is forgotten by the 
>left.Stacherbesky is a case in point.with regards joe
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