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   ‘Critics cry “unaffordable” only when the beneficiaries are the
poor’<http://www.tehelka.com/critics-cry-unaffordable-only-when-the-beneficiaries-are-the-poor/?singlepage=1#>
*Social change is possible only when we demand it. Amartya Sen tells Shougat
Dasgupta that change requires people to think beyond sectional interests
and insist on a better life for all *
 [image: Shougat Dasgupta]
 Shougat Dasgupta <http://tehelka.com/author/shougat-dasgupta>
July 17, 2013

 [image: Amartya Sen. File
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Amartya Sen <http://www.tehelka.com/tag/amartya-sen/>. File Photo

*Why have we been so ineffective in using our rapid economic
growth<http://www.tehelka.com/tag/economic-growth/>,
over decades now, to reduce extreme poverty and deprivation?*
There has been some decline in poverty and deprivation with rapid economic
growth <http://www.tehelka.com/tag/economic-growth/>, and the main question
is why have the effects been so limited. I think there are two main reasons
for the ineffectiveness. First, unlike the process of development in Japan,
China, Korea and other countries, which pursued what Jean Drèze and I have
called “Asian economic development” in our book, India has not had enough
focus on public spending on school education and basic healthcare, which
these other countries have had. They have made human capability development
central to their economic expansion, and having an educated and healthy
workforce is not only good for sustaining quality economic
growth<http://www.tehelka.com/tag/economic-growth/>,
but also favourable to expanding the earnings of the workforce. For
example, while India’s wage rates, correcting for inflation, have grown
very slowly, the Chinese wage rates have gone up rapidly (by about seven
percent per year, in real terms). China has remained competitive, despite
this wage rise, because of its fast-growing productivity and the skill of
its educated and healthy workforce.

Second, these countries have used a much higher proportion of the extra
income generated by economic
growth<http://www.tehelka.com/tag/economic-growth/>to further expand
their facilities of education and healthcare, and
consolidated and expanded their early lead in human capability formation.
There are lessons there for India which we have persistently overlooked
thanks to the strong temptation — often fed by the business media — to see
the pursuit of growth to be a matter of cunning commercial policy, in
particular providing extra incentives for business, rather than as a social
and economic exercise of enhancing human lives and human productivity. I am
not against incentives being offered for economic expansion (and Indian
entrepreneurs are admirably adaptable and responsive), but the balance that
has been lost requires emendation through appropriate reorientation of
public policy and democratic pressure to make policy priorities more humane
as well as more intelligent.

You write that the gulf between the lives of the poor and the rich has “an
intensity — indeed an outrageousness — that aggregate inequality indicators
cannot capture.” Why is the State so cavalier about providing people with
even the most basic services, elementary education, for instance, public
toilets or rudimentary healthcare?
In a democratic country, government policy tends to be strongly shaped by
the nature of political demands that are aired, and the public pressures
that are generated. If the government is constantly pressured to spend
public money to help the relatively privileged, then the government sees
its political advantage in taking those steps. So it is not just a matter
of the state and its policies that we have to look at, but also the nature
of public demand and the balance of media coverage. If we, the Indian
citizens with our voices and votes, thunder in support of subsidising
electricity for those who have it (one-third of Indians have no electric
connections), for subsidising diesel or cooking gas for those who have
implements to make use of them (most Indians do not have such implements),
while remaining silent on medical deprivation, educational backwardness, or
the lack of toilets at home, then we must share the blame for being
“cavalier.”
The book that Drèze and I have written focusses on the deprivation of the
Indian population precisely for us to be better informed and more
determined to create a better India, rather than being inadvertently
callous. Indian citizens — no less than people anywhere else — can respond
to empirical information and analysis, and we have to rely on public action
based on that to put our house in order.

*Are inclusive, universal programmes such as school meals or NREGA evidence
of the value of State intervention?*
These are surely among the examples to consider, even though there are many
others. Also, these schemes, as they exist now, have faults that can be
remedied. However, empirical studies show that despite the faults and
limitations, mid-day meals in schools and NREGA have improved the lives and
health of a great many people. But we must never forget that each of these
programmes can be improved. Even when the basic idea is sound, as these
are, there should not be any exemption from close public scrutiny.

*Speaking of large programmes, we come to the Food Security
Bill<http://www.tehelka.com/tag/food-security-bill/>.
One critic described it as “something cooked up by a Soviet planner on a
bad day”. What do you say to those who argue that such programmes are
unaffordable?*
This is the best defence of Soviet planning I have heard for a long time.
The Food Security Bill <http://www.tehelka.com/tag/food-security-bill/>,
which alas had to be promulgated as an ordinance rather than through
parliamentary endorsement (a great pity), has a number of faults, but if
that is the alleged critic’s idea of a disastrous bit of policy, then he
has clearly led a sheltered political life. If it is the case, as many
other critics argue, that the present government is going forward with it
in order to get more votes, that is not as much of an indictment in a
democracy — where voting is meant to have an important function — as it
would be in a system in which voting had no role in the politics of the
country. The Soviet planner, even on a bad day, did not have much reason to
worry about securing votes.

However, the issue of affordability is serious. Those who have nothing
critical to say about the public policy of providing artificially cheap
electricity for those who are lucky enough to have power connection (the
cost of this subsidisation is monumental: it absorbs about two percent of
the GDP) do not have much moral right, it could be argued, to wax eloquent
on the unaffordability of the Food Security
Bill<http://www.tehelka.com/tag/food-security-bill/>(which will absorb
a bit less than one percent of the GDP). It is a bit
exasperating that critics jump to cry “unaffordable” only when the
beneficiaries are the poor and the hungry, rather than the well-fed users
of subsidised electricity, subsidised diesel, subsidised cooking gas,
artificially cheapened fertilizers, or import-duty free gold from abroad. I
wish I could call these critics “cavalier”, but that surely would be too
kind.

Affordability, in general, is, however, a legitimate concern, but any
policy has to be judged with full knowledge of who gets the benefit and how
it helps to remedy, if it does, the deficiencies of the contemporary India.
There are serious issues to examine about all public policies, but we are
unlikely to get there by a deeply class-biased analysis of what India can
or cannot afford.

*You argue that the State must become more active. You cite the
interventionist governments of Scandinavian countries as an example. But
can we trust the State to deliver on its promises? That well-intentioned
programmes will not be undone by corruption?*
This too is an excellent question, like the others you have put to us.
State action calls for constant scrutiny and assessment, and it should
never be a matter of just “trust”. Your rhetorical question points exactly
in the right direction. Eternal vigilance is not only – as has often been
said – the price of liberty; it is also the price of having efficient and
non-corrupt governance.

However, just as it is a mistake to expect too much from the state, it
could be a great mistake to assume that the state cannot do anything, no
matter how vigilant the public is and how the political process of checks
and balances function. Indian public policy did eliminate famines
immediately after independence; it did prevent the explosion of an AIDS
pandemic as many experts abroad feared; it did eliminate polio as a disease
from the land of India; it runs postal systems, railways and some other
public services with efficiency that does not compare unfavourably with
what happens elsewhere in the world.

It is extremely important to avoid what can be called “the smugness of
cynicism,” which can take the form of arguing: “The Indian state cannot
achieve anything, therefore let me not bother to think about public policy:
my partners at bridge are waiting for me.”


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