Dear all,
2013/6/19 Boris Maire <ma...@club-internet.fr>
>
> Le 19 juin 2013 à 19:06, Élie Roux <elie.r...@telecom-bretagne.eu> a
> écrit :
>
> > - would that be useful to you?
> Practicing gregorian make me looking at ancient neumatic notation to get a
> better interpretation of melodies. I think people like "Association
> grégorienne de Nantes" could be interested for the annual weekend they
> organize.
>
> I think this would be an amazing feature.
> > - for what purpose? (please develop a little here)
> learning
> make paper more readable than the Triplex
> edit old books or going further in re-editing older books, like for the
> Dominican Rit.
>
> The gregorian notation is something very "modern" : at first, the
> gregorian was transmitted by singing only. Then, some text were written to
> be shared all Europe and the world. Then after came the first signs and
> after St Gaal, Laon and others. I think the first system with lines appears
> in the XVth century or something like that. And Episema were created by
> Solesmes during the XIXth century, the tristropha during the XXth century.
> This 2 creations (and some others) were made to translate in gregorian
> notation some specific old neumatic notation.
>
> I think that people who wants to improve the way they sing gregorian will
> need to access old neumatic notation. With a tool like Gregorio, it will be
> possible to edit some books to help learning this notation, some song books
> readable (in the triplex, one of the old notation is nearly on the latin
> text).
>
I agree with Mr. Maire : though it isn't absolutely necessary, for an
average choir to sing well, to have old neumatic notation, it is something
really interesting for those who want to go further.
> > - how exactly would you wish the output of ancient notation in
> > Gregorio to be?
> Perhaps in first time, a tool to compile "gabc" (or "nabc") files
> independent of gregorian ones.
> Then after, an option in the \inputscore to place a neumatic notation
> above the gregorian one.
>
> I'd think something like that, too : creating a new file format (or two ?
see further), "nabc" or other, that would include the ancient notation, and
that could be combined with gabc to produce scores.
> - what kind of notation would you use?
> Something like gabc
> If the question is about St Gall or Laon, I was thinking they were both
> similar and the differences are on the melody, aren't they ?
>
> Those notations are similar, but I think there are (at least in some
cases) enough differences to think about having two files for the same
chant : one for St Gall, the other for Laon.
> > - would you be ready to help?
>
I'd be, as soon as I'm able to !
> - would you have time this month for this?
>
I'd have time only in the beginning of August, then in September (more or
less).
> > - do you have ideas on how the user would input old neumes? (this is
> > one of the biggest challenges)
> a nabc file compiled to a tex file, like the gabc file
> then an \includescore or \includeneume for the tex file product from the
> nabc source.
> Or an option in \includescore : \include[neume.tex]{gregorio.tex}
>
> > - do you have the ability of designing a font? (another challenge!)
>
For now, I don't think so. With documentation and a bit of time, I could
try, at least contributing. I already modified existing caracters in
fontforge, worked a little with inkscape, but I didn't ever design a font
from scratch.
Sincerely yours,
Fr. Jacques Peron +
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