> Sent: 11 September, 2026 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: deprecating deroff & unroff (was: More UTP utility wibbles)
> 
Branden Robinson wrote:
> 
> With the addition of `-o` to the grotty(1) options, thus:
> 
> groff -T ascii -P -cbou
> 
> ...I frequently use this techique in groff's automated test scripts.
  .  .  .
> I've been thinking about[1] adding a `-C` option to grotty to imply all
> of `-cbou`, plus a new option I need to add to defeat continuous
> underlining mode (`.cu`), which is the only vehicle by which one can
> still force grotty to overstrike when `-cbou` is specified.  I've never
> gotten around to it before because continuous underlining is practically
> never used (and requires a special device control command even to use).

Sounds like a good idea.  Won’t help me much, because I may be
stuck at 1.22.3.  But I have a similar option to my front-end to
groff.  Yeah, a front-end to a front-end ... a story with long
historical roots, details of which I shall not bore you with.

Nowadays, it works just as well with “-Tutf8” or “-Tcp1252”
if you have it.

In all fairness, I think I was guided in that direction by
something I read almost 40 years ago (I cannot remember what it
was).  Suffice it to say that we dropped deroff like a hot rock
except to feed the spelling checker.

As the immortal Yen Lo put it, My dear Dimitri, I keep forgetting
that you’re a young country and your attention span is _limited_.

It’s always amazing how we keep relearning what we learned and
then forgot.  Perhaps as it always was and always will be.

Jeff Conrad

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