hi

my 2 cents here

that exactly the point, i was at the IEPG on sunday morning and there is a 
need for better understanding the BGP routing operations and evolutions

a couple of crisp points have been identified (that are not linked to the 
usual protocol dev phases) related to the current and future BGP routing 
operations, in addition to the modelling and experimentation aspects

GROW is the place of choice for such investigations, having this group in 
place now, why should IESG demote and then promote again this group in 
another form and not just adapt/re-charter ? 

thanks,
-d.




Lixia Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21/03/2007 09:26
 
        To:     Luca Martini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        cc:     Ron Bonica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected], Dan 
Romascanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Subject:        Re: [GROW] Proposal to close grow working group



On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:46 PM, Luca Martini wrote:

> However GROW is getting marginal. I believe that there is a time 
> for every WG to finish and remaining work moved to the area meeting.
> we can always find one more things , but that does not mean that 
> the working group needs to go on meeting and consuming IETF resources.
>
> Luca

Hi Luca, It seems to me that the statement like
    "there is a time for every WG to finish and remaining work
     moved to the area meeting."
is true in general, especially when applied to WGs working on 
protocol development. i.e. after the major development work is done, 
the "tailing" work seems more appropriately moving to area meetings 
instead of dragging on a separate WG for another long while.

The case in hand about GROW, on the other hand, seems to differ from 
the above general statement in 2 aspects:
- GROW: global routing and operations working group (if I remembered 
right).  from my personal view, this type of work does not 
necessarily have distinguished phases as protocol development effort.
- in particular, new efforts that have been on GROW plate are needed 
now.
Yes IESG may decide to close GROW and set up another one, it is just 
unclear to me  what value could be gained from going through the 
steps of BOF->approval->WG one more time.

If we keep GROW, the only work needed is to name a new chair or a 
pair of co-chbairs.

Just my 2 cents.

>> I don't think that closing down grow is a good idea.
>>
>> /Loa
>>


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