Hello Bruno,

Excellent - this is exactly what we discussed in the past. But when I read the draft before sending email yesterday unfortunately it does not say so that clearly at all - regarding the IBGP case ;(

        iBGP         eBGP
PE1 ---- P ---- PE2 ====== PE3

The scenario I had in mind was we are receiving errored UPDATE msg from PE3 to PE2, PE2 treats as withdraw the parsable NLRIs then for the reast the thread so far indicated to inject g-shut community.

While injecting G_SHUT would not hurt and would allow for example PE1 to propagate it downstream in the same time error handling draft should IMHO me explicit to say we are advertising from PE2 towards it's AS with lowest LOCAL_PREF and G_SHUT.

Example:

4.2.1.1.  Pre-configuration

   On each ASBR supporting the g-shut procedure, an outbound BGP route
   policy is applied on all iBGP sessions of the ASBR, that:
   o    matches the g-shut community
   o    sets the local-pref of the paths tagged with the g-shut
        community to a low value

Here in out case we do not match on g-shut as g-shut is not received from EBGP.

Also perhaps it would be great to just copy and paste the quote from the previous email directly to a deployment section of the draft.

Best regards,
R.


Robert,


From: Robert Raszuk Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:00 PM

Jeff,

I do not understand why we are not going to re-advertise "good" routes
with lowest local preference which would not result in holes of some
boxes understanding g-shut community and some not.

What you propose (using LOCAL_PREF) is what the g-shut draft also propose.

In fact I spoke to Bruno in the past on that and I was hoping we all
converged that g-shut community would be used only on the EBGP side to
indicate to the peer that it should in turn lower local pref on his
side.

The g-shut community has always been used to signal the ghsut only on the eBGP 
side. On the iBGP side, LOCAL_PREF has always been used.

Apparently g-shut draft still calls for this new community to be
used both on iBGP and eBGP side.

On the iBGP side, LOCAL_PREF is used to lower the preference of the g-shut 
draft.
In _addition_ to this, the g-shut community is attached for _informational_ 
purpose. Because some AS internal BGP policy may have a need to know that the 
route is being g-shut. And it's cleaner to use a community to provide the root 
cause rather than try to guess from the low LOCAL_PREF the root cause.

Regards,
Bruno



Regards,
R.

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 03:32:52PM -0500, Tony Li wrote:
Understood.  I have no issues with withdrawn routes.  The issue is with g-
shut routes that continue to sink traffic.

Perhaps I'm unclear on your reservations.

If we don't go through something like graceful shutdown and leave the
peering session up, we're potentially going to pull significantly more
traffic toward the "bad" peering session than if we didn't do such a thing.

-- Jeff
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