I don't think treat-as-withdraw is trying to fix a single session reset. 
Graceful restart can fix that. It's the rolling resets that need a human to 
remove a buggy router or a config that triggered the bug. That takes several 
hours. Treat-as-withdraw limits the damage during those hours.

Could we please settle on that without trying to solve the impossible?

Cheers,
Jakob

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On Dec 31, 2012, at 1:21 AM, "Robert Raszuk" <[email protected]> wrote:

> How about if we would mandate Enhance Route Refresh request to be send
> to such peer who's bad updates triggered treat-as-withdraw action ?
> 
> If we resync databases OK the likehood of "bad things" should be
> minimal. If we fail to sync (get another malformed update(s)) then
> IMHO resetting the session should be granted.
> 
> Yes that means that "treat-as-withdraw" should be applied only to
> those peers which support Enhanced Route Refresh.
> 
> Happy New Year,
> R.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:09 AM, John Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Brian Dickson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But, the basic problem is this: missing an UPDATE won't trigger either
>>> condition, it will at worst cause sub-optimal routing. Missing a WITHDRAW
>>> _CAN_ cause Bad Things (TM) to happen.
>> 
>>   +1
>> 
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