Well described, Chris.   I agree this work is relevant, appropriate and
useful.


Tony


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Christopher Morrow <
[email protected]> wrote:

> as in the room, I'd hope to focus on-list on:
>    "What is a route-leak?"
>
> I thought that a taxonomy:
>    "a scheme of classification."
>
> of what route-leaks/hijacks are would be helpful. It's possible that
> we could call all 'hijacks', 'mis-originations', 'valley-free
> violations'  the same thing: "Route Leaks"... but having a definition
> and a method to view these from either a direct neighbor OR (ideally)
> 2 as-hops away would be much better.
>
> Sriram/doug's document talks about 4 types of leak, of these 1, 2, 3
> all basically look the same to me, the original set is:
>    1 - prefix-hijack with path to legitimate origin
>    2 - u-turn with more specific prefix
>    3 - u-turn with full-prefix
>    4 - internal-prefix-leak
>
> To me this sounds like:
>    1, 2, 3 are all saying the same thing: "Someone leaked all or part
> of my prefix, but provided transit to me anyway"
>
> and 4 is mostly lost to me... though I suppose it might mean: "my peer
> leaked my prefix to his transits"
>
> The goal for this work really ought to be:
>   define route-leak
>
> Then the next follow-on is:
>     "Do operations folks view this thing as defined to be a problem?
> should someone fix that problem?"
>
> -Chris
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Tony Tauber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jared Mauch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Communities are not sent by default (eg Cisco). Route leaks come for
> free
> >> on Cisco too.
> >
> >
> > Right, I meant "intentionally implemented" communities.
> > Anyway, so the idea is to introduce a new knob that's on by default and
> > which is more resistant to breaking off?
> >
> > Not so compelling to me as to warrant a wholesale protocol extension.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >>
> >> On Jul 25, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Tony Tauber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> How is this different than tagging with communities today?
> >> In either case, the provider's correct action on the semantics is needed
> >> (and can go awry through misconfiguration).
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >
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