Hi Job,

On 10/08/2016, 2:02 AM, "Job Snijders" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>We changed the text to the following:
>
>   """ BGP speakers in a bilateral peering relationship using the
>   BLACKHOLE community MUST only accept and honor BGP announcements
>   carrying the BLACKHOLE community under the two following conditions:
>   
>        o the announced prefix is covered by an equal or shorter prefix
>        that the neighboring network is authorized to advertise
>        o the receiving party agreed to honor the BLACKHOLE community on
>        the particular BGP session
>
>   In topologies with a route server or other multilateral peering
>   relationships, BGP speakers SHOULD accept and honor BGP announcements
>   under the same conditions."""

I like that text.

>
>> The same could be said for section 3.2. I would be rather wary of NOT
>> adding a NO_ADVERTISE (at the very least) and to be honest SHOULD still
>> seems far too loose for me. Almost all of the recipe's that I've gazed
>> upon
>
>Especially in networks composed of multiple network elements, the
>operator is likely to add NO_EXPORT rather than NO_ADVERTISE to ensure
>the DDoS traffic is dropped as early as possible after it entered the
>operator's routing domain. Was also noted by Christopher and Acked by
>you in https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/grow/current/msg03558.html
>
>In https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/grow/current/msg03558.html
>it was noted: 
>
>> >RPKI probably isn't the tool to use here, for this.
>> 
>> Agreed. Please explicitly state this. I could honestly see that someone
>> falling into the (sad) trap of:
>> A) we are being DDoS'd
>> B) we need to BLACKHOLE a.b.c.d/32
>> c) Provider X says RPKI ROA first
>> D) DDoS'd, so can't push ROA == Fail.
>
>I've added the following text under section 3.2 "Accepting Blackholed IP
>Prefixes":
>
>    """ An operator MUST ensure that origin validation techniques (such
>    as [RFC6811]) to not inadvertently block legitimate announcements
>    carrying the BLACKHOLE community. """
>
>Do you agree?

Yes. Thank-you.

Cheers
Terry

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