I am referring to section 4 of the draft not section 3.
Inbound based I have no doubt.
Thanks
Tim


On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 14:32 Robert Raszuk, <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Policy filtering I described happens on inbound so impact for update
> generation is null.
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:28 PM Yu Tianpeng <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi authors,
>> I am wondering what is the impact on update peer groups of use outbound
>> processing?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>>
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 13:30 Robert Raszuk, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > But what we refer here to those ASs that have a connection with the
>>> local AS.
>>>
>>> Each decently managed AS today has strong EBGP ingress policy permitting
>>> only specific prefixes with specific AS-PATH which is applied in ingress to
>>> ISP network. No more enhancement to this policy is required.
>>>
>>> What you are proposing is actually much weaker model as compared to what
>>> is in place already today by those which care. And those which do not care
>>> would not apply this scheme anyway.
>>>
>>> Many thx,
>>> R.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:13 AM Zhuangshunwan <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the comment!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Shunwan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* GROW [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Robert
>>>> Raszuk
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:48 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] I-D Action:
>>>> draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear authors of draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The draft says:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   " At this point, AS 200 *can lookup the local resource database* and
>>>>
>>>>    check whether there is a real AS relationship between the local AS
>>>>
>>>>    and the left AS and the right AS"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you please share a pointer to any database or accurate public
>>>> oracle where anyone could check if peering relation found in the AS-PATH is
>>>> valid or invalid ?
>>>>
>>>> [Shunwan] Sorry, I can't.  But what we refer here to those ASs that
>>>> have a connection with the local AS.
>>>>
>>>> From the perspective of the local AS, it can manage/hold the
>>>> AS-relationship database between the local AS and each of those ASs (such
>>>> as C2P, P2P, P2C, etc.).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just over the last few months I connected my AS to number of Tier1 ISPs
>>>> in few of my experimental POPs, but never reported that peering
>>>> establishment to anyone. Then I have a question - how any (public) database
>>>> would accurately reflect any global BGP peering relation to be used
>>>> anywhere for filtering of BGP updates ?
>>>>
>>>> [Shunwan] This is indeed a difficult problem to be solved, and we also
>>>> want to know how to solve it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> RR.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:27 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>>> directories.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Title           : Enhanced AS-Loop Detection for BGP
>>>>         Authors         : Huanan Chen
>>>>                           Yunan Gu
>>>>                           Shunwan Zhuang
>>>>                           Haibo Wang
>>>>         Filename        :
>>>> draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt
>>>>         Pages           : 9
>>>>         Date            : 2019-03-11
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>    This document proposes to enhance AS-Loop Detection for BGP Inbound/
>>>>    Outbound Route Processing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection/
>>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection/>
>>>>
>>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>>>
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>>> submission
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>>>>
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