Hello,

I see the following proposal, which I reckon references to de-aggregation 
oopsies by so-called "route optimizers":

Jul 2020 - “Document negative consequences of de-aggregating received routes 
for traffic engineering purposes” - to IESG

And that reminds me of something - what about the inverse where the originating 
ISP is overdoing their traffic engineering by selectively announcing 
de-aggregated routes alongside an overarching supernet? It's not a huge problem 
from a routing security perspective, but this is a major challenge in routing 
traffic locally outside well-established markets, especially when the ISP in 
question backhauls some (but not all) of their upstream providers over very 
long submarine paths.

Best regards,
Martijn Schmidt
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From: GROW <[email protected]> on behalf of Paolo Lucente <[email protected]>
Sent: 02 November 2019 08:49:02
To: Nick Hilliard <[email protected]>; Job Snijders <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter


Dears,

Please add Multi-threaded Routing Toolkit (MRT).

Paolo

> On 31 Oct 2019, at 16:55, Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Job Snijders wrote on 29/10/2019 00:10:
>> My hope is that the proposed update aligns our description with our 
>> activities.
>
> It does, but it also aligns with lots of other things.  Too generic is not a 
> good thing.
>
> That said, GROW fulfils an important niche at IETF, not just for producing 
> its own RFCs, but also acting as a reference point for other WGs.  So it 
> badly needs not to be closed down (randy, take note).
>
> I've re-worked your proposal.  Please feel free to add / remove / modify / 
> ignore / throw in volcano as you see fit.
>
> * Provide stewardship and maintenance for the BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)
> * Develop and document Best Current Practises for operations in the Internet 
> routing system.
> * Develop and document the operational aspects of securing the Internet 
> routing system including management of filtering and routing leaks.
> * Analyse, document and provide best practice characteristics of running BGP 
> at large scale
> * Provide analysis, feedback and assistance for other IETF working groups 
> when their subject matter impacts on the global Internet routing ecosystem..
>
> Nick
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