Hi Alexander,

I think that SHOULD is strong enough to justify the behaviour as part of aspa 
validation.

Certainly the side effect wrt AS_SETs should be called out in operational 
considerations.

Cheers,

Ben
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Subject: Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] Any credence to AS_SET in the *middle* between 
AS_SEQUENCEs?

Hi all,

The current version of the draft follows the wording from 
draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set


   BGP speakers conforming to this document (i.e., conformant BGP
   speakers) MUST NOT locally generate BGP UPDATE messages containing
   AS_SET or AS_CONFED_SET.  Conformant BGP speakers SHOULD NOT send BGP
   UPDATE messages containing AS_SET or AS_CONFED_SET.  Upon receipt of
   such messages, conformant BGP speakers SHOULD use the "Treat-as-
   withdraw" error handling behavior as per 
[RFC7606<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7606>].


As you can see, it uses 'SHOULD'. And this was the reason to have an additional 
'Unverifiable' state, because the 'Invalid' routes MUST be rejected.

If the WG agrees to change normalative language from 'SHOULD' to 'MUST', the 
ASPA document will follow.


вс, 24 июл. 2022 г. в 11:53, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
I think we can conclude that the outcome of the discussions in this thread is 
to make the following change in ASPA-based AS path verification:

If an AS_PATH has one or more AS_SETs in any position, mark it as Invalid.

At least four (perhaps all five) of us who participated in the discussion 
support this change.

Thanks.

Sriram


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Best regards,
Alexander Azimov
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