Hey folks,

I think having the original timestamp of when a route was learned is
valueable, even if theP BM session is set up later, or has flapped and
is reestablished etc.  This was it's always possible to determine when
a given prefix/path was learned.  If you want to have the time the
informatione was learned via BMP it's also possible to use the current
time then to store it into a TSDB.  So following the principle of always
keeping the most options I think we should make sure the timestamp always
represents the one where the BGP UPDATE happened.  As most (if not all?)
routers already store that time / a route age, that information should
already be available.

Cheers,
Max

Anno domini 2022 Tim Evens (tievens) scripsit:

> Timestamp is another item we need to clarify in 7854bis. Some BMP senders 
> send timestamps based on the actual received BGP update.  This may be days, 
> weeks, etc. old from the time that the message is sent to BMP receiver. It 
> has been a bit confusing for people to see timestamps that are old when they 
> just received a RIB dump. OpenBMP/PSQL maintains two timestamps, one is the 
> DB insert time and the other is the BMP received timestamp.  For folks that 
> are working with time series DBs to track/insert/maintain records using time, 
> they may drop messages because they believe they are too old when in fact 
> they are new.   Basically, for those that are using timeseries DBs, they may 
> have to use a new BMP received timestamp instead of the BMP header timestamp.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> On 9/21/22, 6:44 AM, "GROW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Yes, but only for the RIB dump (on initial PEER_UP and for each 
> route-refresh) till EoR.  Senders shouldn’t state compress after that, 
> especially for Adj-RIB-In Pre-Policy.  State compression should be optional. 
> State compression is not required for the RIB dump or at any time, but it 
> does help deal with churn while the RIB dump is in progress.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> On 9/20/22, 10:52 PM, "Robert Raszuk" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
> A-la: there is multiple updates related to a certain NLRI by when a BMP
> message is to be sent out, let's state-compress (ie. not send out) those
> that were already obsoleted by a subsequent update.
> 
> But this will hide BGP churn for a given NET to be detectable by BMP 
> receiver. Is this a good thing ? I am not sure. It is a loss of information 
> to me.
> 
> Thx,
> R.

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