Hi Tobias, Thanks for sharing your comments.
Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Tobias Fiebig <[email protected]> > Envoyé : mardi 18 mars 2025 09:02 > À : [email protected] > Objet : [GROW] Re: rechartering GROW (2025 update) > > > Moin, > > > A draft proposal is available here: > > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith > > ub.com%2Fboucadair%2FWG-Charters%2Fblob%2Fmain%2Fgrow- > 032025.md&data=0 > > > 5%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40orange.com%7C46c0f80ae106400f5d9d08dd65f3 > > > 3e33%7C90c7a20af34b40bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%7C0%7C638778817568824519%7 > > > CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlA > > > iOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2PnX4 > > VPDqGtD0ppWiFL6jfv5h%2Bv1lsdZYJyNPDuDnng%3D&reserved=0 > > What I see from a diff (roughly): > > - Measurement > - VPN (So, essentially, DC-BGP) > > + IGP/EGP interaction > + Increase awareness for mitigations (Not develop) Develop models/tech > + for automation More operations terminology "Agenda time at GROW > + sessions at IETF meetings should allow for > presentations and discussions of operator issues and experience, > and > other work within scope for the working group, but with a default > expectation that priority be given to operator presentations." > > My main concern would be with the last sentence, as this wording makes > GROW sound more like an RG (presenting experience reports etc.) than a > group focused on creating documents/guidance, which the milestones > currently mostly list. > [Med] The intent is to encourage more participation from operators to share their issues/concerns/etc. without imposing having an I-D. > Questions would be, whether that is a desired outcome. Otherwise > language like: > > "Agenda time at GROW sessions at IETF meetings should allow for > presentations and discussions of operators' issues and experiences in > relation to work within scope for the working group. Priority should > be given to presentations that either directly contribute to > documents on solutions for challenges they face, or that add further > context to known challenges faced by operators." [Med] I think that it is simple to remove the last sentence starting with "Priority..". > > > # Nits: > > - 'GROW working group': GROW working group indeed reads better than > GROW (Global Routing Operations Workinggroup) ;-) > [Med] ;-) Left the current wording for now. Thanks > With best regards, > Tobias > > > Your comments and feedback are most welcome! > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Job & Chris > > co-chairs GROW > > > > _______________________________________________ > > GROW mailing list -- [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > -- > Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig > T +31 616 80 98 99 > M [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > GROW mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. _______________________________________________ GROW mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
