The best I can do is to say that any situation in which a program will send multiple types of notifications where some require more time or attention to digest than others (or in which a user prefers some notifications to be present on the screen for longer for some other reason) is a situation which bumps up against the limitations of Growl...
the below example is one case. sticky is not preferable to a user because it requires interaction. in the below case, every time i get an "important" email I don't want to have to go click off the box. Nor would I want to increase the duration for "Smoke" style displays because doing so forces the quick updates to also grow in duration, which invades my screen too much. I can come up with infinitely many other examples. Here are a couple of more: My stock tracking program displays the DJIA and S&P500 index every 15 minutes. These notifications should last 1 second. If there is a sharp drop in IBM stock, however, I want Growl to pop up a longer duration notification giving me some more dense data about the recent history of this stock and maybe also information about some other related stocks that have dropped. My computationally intensive numerical simulation program takes about 5 minutes run a simulation. I run a batch of them and want Growl to inform me every time it gets %20 closer to completion of a simulation trial. The duration of this notification should be very short. When it finishes each simulation trial I want it to pop up an 8 second notification giving me a summary of the results of that trial. IMO, the ideal UI for Growl would make "duration" one of the settings (along with "display style", "stay on screen", "priority" and "play sound") that can be modulated through notification-specific preferences. It seems like the natural place to have such a setting for the reasons I've described. Cheers, watson On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Christopher Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:38 PM, watson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Christopher Forsythe <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> ok ... lets step back. i'm a user. i want my email program to Growl at >> >> me for 1 second every 5 minutes to tell me how many new pieces of mail >> >> i have in my inbox. but if a piece of mail makes it through my >> >> "important" filter, i want the program to Growl at me for 5 seconds so >> >> it can display the Sender, Subject and first couple of lines of text >> >> of the email. furthermore, as a very picky user, I hate every single >> >> "display style" except for "Smoke". whats the solution? >> >> >> > >> > Can you explain the problem a bit further? >> >> I'm not sure what you're fishing for... how does this not illustrate a >> valid use case? the point is, as this user i have no recourse to set >> the duration of my "important incoming message" notification longer >> than my "how many emails you've gotten in the last 5 minutes" >> notification. aside from making it sticky, which is not desirable. >> > > I'm not sure how sticky doesn't cover what you need here. So I'm hoping you > provide more details than just "it's not desirable to have sticky". > I'm not really sure what value add there is here, other than to you, since > nobody has every requested this in the past and I just haven't even had to > think about it. So if you could provide as much detail as possible to help > us make a decision, I think it's better than to just provide a single > example and then say "what are you fishing for?" when I ask for more detail. > You're asking us to make a modification which affects millions of users. One > which no one else has requested. One which will add a more complicated UX > and UI, and which needs a lot of thought. Providing useful information about > examples is a good idea in these situations, whereas not providing any more > detail as to why you want what you want is probably a horrible idea if this > is what you really want in Growl. > If you have no further details, then that's fine. But if you do and can > explain yourself further, that would be helpful here. > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Growl Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss?hl=en.
