On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Phat Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On 20 Nov 2011, at 10:45, Michel Tribet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi freestef,
>
> 2011/11/20 freestef <[email protected]>
>
>> What a joke these people complaining about paying so little money to
>> reward those who have been dedicating their time to enrich our Mac
>> user experience for so long.
>> Thanks to the developers :-)
>>
>
> I can add : "It's a real shame to whine about a product that has cost so
> much to the
> developers!" So stop whining about the price and pay or shut your mouth,
> little kids,
> and stop using it !
>
>
> That's not very constructive.  I'm sure everyone would agree that 1.3.x is
> currently less functional than 1.2.x and that it could have done with an
> extra round of user testing before being released.  Add to the mix that
> people are now expected to pay for it, and you can understand their
> frustration.
>
> At least one person has been banned from this group for being abusive - I
> hope the moderators encourage you to tone down your responses in the same
> vein.
>
> People pointing out issues should be encouraged, not stamped on.
>
>
Guys this thread is just annoying all around, and Phat Bob's email has just
topped it. There is nothing beneficial that can come out of this thread
except for angry people on both sides of it.

Here are the facts regarding the original post, they are not going to
change:

1) Growl in binary form as of 1.3 and higher are no longer free to
download, you will need to purchase Growl in order to download the binary.

2) Growl is open source and you can build Growl from source if you would
like to.

3) Some people will appreciate and do like the fact that we are charging
for Growl in order to make Growl a sustainable project, and some people do
not. That's life.

4) The fact that Phat Bob doesn't think that we tested enough would not
have changed if we had tested for a year longer. Phat Bob's problem will
not be satisfied until the applications he uses update. No amount of our
pleading would have gotten all of them to update. No amount of our testing
would have changed it. That's the bottom line.


That's it, that's not going to change. It's how it is, we just have to move
on from here.

I consider this thread dead at this point, there's no need to continue it.
There's no value in doing so as far as I can see, other than to try to
start a fight on an email list. People have their opinions, you have your
own. You can feel free to express yours, but both starting arguments on
this list and directing people down the path you know is incorrect are not
acceptable behavior.

Chris


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