Yann said it perfectly!

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Yann Ricquebourg <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Maybe my wishes are different from Stefan's, but I can explain my personal
> preferences
> when redirecting Growl Notification to Apple Notification Center:
>
> - I consider the NC visual notifications (on screen) like Growl
> notifications:
> a way to be noticed "live", in the moment, of a particular event.
> So, I'm not annoyed that notification disappear and are not sticky. That's
> perfect.
>
> - I consider the Apple Notification drawer (from right side) a bit like a
> mix between Growl History and Roll-up.
> In other words, a way to see the notifications that I missed while away,
> or that I saw but
> I want to check when it happened or other details.
> This "history", by default the last 5 items, can be parametrized per
> application in Apple
> system preferences, and that's why I changed it to a different range for
> particular applications ;-)
>
> => Then, to sum it up, the only detail that I wish to be changed in Growl
> forwarding is
> the automatic removing of notifications from the NC drawer after 2 minutes.
> Not removing them at all would be better for me.
>
> -Yann.
>
> P.S. Moreover, to completely explain what would be the ideal behavior for
> me concerning Growl forwarding to NC:
> I would love a support a bit like Bark did:
> - I appreciate to gather most of my "system" notifications into
> centralized Apple Notification Center
> - Nevertheless I don't want to forward 100% of my notifications, for
> different reasons:
> some are "special" (like HardwareGrowler special key notifications) and
> better with a nice visual style
> (thanks to Growl Styles) and do not need to be logged in the Notification
> Center history
> (for instance Growl Tunes with a big display of the cover), or others are
> currently better with their
> particular icon for each notification (like Chat applications)...
>
> => therefore, getting the Notification Center forwarding as a Growl
> notification style among others
> (and not a global switch) would be better for me, to able able to disable
> it per application...
>
> Christopher Forsythe wrote on 31/10/13
>
>> So explain in detail exactly what that behavior is. When we originally
>> implemented this, it was based on what we observed. So to file a ticket I
>> need detailed expectations. Getting those from someone who knows exactly
>> what he's expecting is ideal versus going through the same analysis again
>> and possibly getting the same results.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Stefan Wrobel <[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     I would say the correct behavior is to emulate the way that regular
>> NC notifications behave when NC forwarding is enabled. I think that as
>> users, we expect NC to behave like NC. Honestly if I wanted growl-style
>> functionality I would have growl display its own notifications, but I like
>> NC better.
>>
>>
>>     On Monday, October 29, 2012 12:03:37 AM UTC-7, Christopher Forsythe
>> wrote:
>>
>>         We're looking at how to change NC in 2.1. I'm seeing here you
>> guys are talking about it disappearing not being right. But what is, is my
>> question. I understand on the sticky bit, but I need a detailed description
>> of what you are seeing from other applications so that we can discuss what
>> to do on our end.
>>
>>         Chris
>>
>>         On Oct 28, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Beers <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>          Doesn't NC handle this by letting you choose how many updates to
>>> show here?  I agree with the other posters here - having notifications
>>> disappear by default makes them useless in NC. I can't think of another app
>>> that makes its notifications disappear before being read or dismissed by
>>> the user.
>>>
>>>         BTW, I'm using the Python library to send some notifications,
>>> and even when those are sticky they still disappear from NC after two
>>> minutes.
>>>         Andrew
>>>
>>>         On Monday, October 15, 2012 11:09:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher
>>> Forsythe wrote:
>>>
>>>             So when you have 45 Facebook notifications what happens
>>> then? :)
>>>
>>>             --
>>>             Chris Forsythe
>>>             @The_Tick <http://twitter.com/The_Tick>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Dennis Quek wrote:
>>>
>>>              I am not seeing anything in the sidebar for notification
>>>> centre.
>>>>
>>>>             I attached two screen shots here.
>>>>
>>>>             Base on the time stamp, 5.50pm one Growl message came in
>>>> alerting me Adium someone login.
>>>>             At 5.52 pm the alert in NC is gone.
>>>>
>>>>             I understand your reasoning on disappearing growl message
>>>> in NC, but it serves no purpose if it is not inside NC for later viewing.
>>>> NC is meant to be view later, NC is not like growl.. your growl works
>>>> perfectly but once u put it inside NC, it should follow NC rules... meaning
>>>> stick there.
>>>>
>>>>             I give u an example, Facebook notification stick there and
>>>> will not disappear. Are you implying facebook doing it wrong?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:58:21 PM UTC+8,
>>>> Christopher Forsythe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>             Also you see nothing in the sidebar for notification
>>>>> center like this?
>>>>>
>>>>>             Screen-Shot-2012-07-25-at-5.__**14.31-PM.png <
>>>>> http://cdn.arstechnica.net//**wp-content/uploads/2012/07/**
>>>>> Screen-Shot-2012-07-25-at-5.**14.31-PM.png<http://cdn.arstechnica.net//wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Screen-Shot-2012-07-25-at-5.14.31-PM.png>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>             --
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>>>>>             @The_Tick <http://twitter.com/The_Tick>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On Monday, September 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Dennis Quek
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>              When into the os x nc, I am in the middle of work on my
>>>>>> laptop or I didn't manage to catch a glimse on the tweet message. I went
>>>>>> back to nc after 10 min, nothing there.... Do u really think this is what
>>>>>> majority wants?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Now that your apps is a paying apps and I am a right
>>>>>> paying customer and this kind of attitude you are giving me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             I am not sure what culture u r from in USA or what but
>>>>>> from a customer point of view we have the right to voice our dismay in 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> product and not telling customer how stupid we are!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             This is just mu bad luck, I always trust growl developer
>>>>>> can do a better job and shock to receive such crude remark from u..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Is not about the money I paid but take pride to making
>>>>>> customer is what I look for in u. Cheers
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>>>>             - Screen Shot 2012-09-25 at 5.52.13 PM.png
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