It is valid behavior, but I agree that it's a little sub-optimal for the
client to send two messages when it reestablishes the stream.  What
language are you using gRPC in?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:19 PM František Bořánek <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It makes sense.
>
> However, in this case, the initial connection was already made and this
> tcpdump samples recovering of ADS stream. And as you write:
>
> > Note that once your application receives all 7 resources from the xDS
> server, if the ADS stream is broken and the client reestablishes it at that
> point, it should immediately subscribe to all 7 resources in the initial
> message on the new stream.
>
> It behaves as I described. First 1 resource and then 7 resources. Note
> that the messages have version_info. Brand new channels don't have
> version_info.
>
> But as you pointed, the channels can be created anytime, thus it's valid
> bahaviur.
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> F.
>
> 16. 3. 2022 v 19:49, Mark D. Roth <[email protected]>:
>
> The gRPC client does not know a priori what set of resource names are
> available on the xDS server, and even if it did, it would not request all
> of them proactively, because it may not actually need all of them.
> Instead, each time a gRPC channel is created with an "xds:" target URI,
> that tells gRPC which LDS resource to request, and it requests the
> resources as they are needed.  Because the application can create new
> channels at any time, the set of resources requested on the ADS stream can
> change at any time.
>
> If your application immediately creates 7 channels when it starts up, then
> the pattern you're seeing is expected.  When the first channel (presumably
> for "xds:server-1") starts connecting, it will immediately subscribe to the
> corresponding LDS resource ("server-1").  While it's waiting for that
> message to be sent, it notices that the other 6 channels have started up,
> so it realizes that it has to subscribe to the other 6 resources.  By the
> time the initial message is sent and it's able to send a second message, it
> knows about all 7 subscriptions, so the second message contains all 7 of
> them.
>
> Note that once your application receives all 7 resources from the xDS
> server, if the ADS stream is broken and the client reestablishes it at that
> point, it should immediately subscribe to all 7 resources in the initial
> message on the new stream.  That is because it already knows about all of
> the subscriptions at the point at which it sends the initial message on the
> new stream.
>
> This communication is fully legal and should work fine with any
> xDS-compliant server.  As described in this section of the xDS spec
> <https://www.envoyproxy.io/docs/envoy/latest/api-docs/xds_protocol#ack-nack-and-resource-type-instance-version>,
> the intent of the version field in the DiscoveryRequest is to provide the
> server with a way to know when it sends a version that the client considers
> invalid.  But if the client sends a second DiscoveryRequest with the same
> version and a different list of resource names, that indicates that it is
> changing what resources it is subscribing to, and the server cannot ignore
> that just because the version is the same as one it has previously seen.
>
> I hope this information is helpful.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 5:41 AM František Bořánek <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I don't know if such behaviour is a bug.
>>
>> I have server communicates with 7 services configured via XDS and after
>> the xds-client got GO AWAY packet from XDS server 6 channels cannot connect
>> due to error and only one is ok. I did a tcpdump to see a chat between our
>> implementation of XDS and C++gRPC and cannot deside if C++gRPC behave
>> correct.
>>
>> It relates to
>> https://github.com/grpc/proposal/blob/master/A27-xds-global-load-balancing.md#initial-request-on-the-ads-stream
>>  >      The first request on the ADS stream will include a Node message
>> that identifies the client. As mentioned above, most of the fields for the
>> Node message will be read from the bootstrap file.
>>
>> I would expect that after reconnect the xds client sends to ADS stream 4
>> requests (LDS, CDS, EDS, RDS) however it sends 5 requests (LDS, LDS, CDS,
>> EDS, RDS). On our side of xds server we are confused by these 2 LDS
>> requests.
>>
>> 1.
>> (PROTOBUF) envoy.api.v2.DiscoveryRequest
>> {
>> version_info: "ba0255a2-07b6-45ed-83b4-dad0cbf96b1f"
>> node: {
>> cluster: "default-cluster"
>> user_agent_name: "gRPC C-core linux"
>> user_agent_version: "C-core 22.0.0"
>> client_features: "envoy.lb.does_not_support_overprovisioning"
>> build_version: "gRPC C-core linux 22.0.0"
>> }
>> resource_names: "server-1"
>> type_url: "type.googleapis.com/envoy.api.v2.Listener"
>> }
>>
>> 2.
>> (PROTOBUF) envoy.api.v2.DiscoveryRequest
>> {
>> version_info: "ba0255a2-07b6-45ed-83b4-dad0cbf96b1f"
>> resource_names: "server-1"
>> resource_names: "server-2"
>> resource_names: "server-3"
>> resource_names: "server-4"
>> resource_names: "server-5"
>> resource_names: "server-6"
>> resource_names: "server-7"
>> type_url: "type.googleapis.com/envoy.api.v2.Listener"
>> }
>>
>> - Shouldn't it be only one LDS request?
>> - Shouldn't it the initial request contains all configured resources?
>>
>> Root of our problem is that we responds only on first request since it
>> have the same version. I know how to fix it on our end, but it is behaviour
>> of gRPC xds-client correct?
>>
>>
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