Charles,

Very good!

However, the documentaion only touches on point (1) of the three points
I made in the report.

It only mentions the issue with xinetd, but says nothing about the other
things that make globusrun-ws so slow, or what to do about them.

Keep up the good work!

On 30.07.08, Charles Bacon wrote:
> I see that they have added documentation about the latency to the  
> current docs:
> http://www.globus.org/toolkit/docs/4.2/4.2.0/data/gridftp/admin/gridftp-troubleshooting.html#gridftp-troubleshooting-latency
> 
> Additionally I removed the USERID/etc. entries from the example in the  
> 2.4.3 docs that were being referenced.
> 
> 
> Charles
> 
> On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Steve White wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >Progress has been made in this long discussion, but it has gotten  
> >rather
> >complicated.
> >
> >Find attached a technical summary, including the observed problems,
> >diagnosis, and remedies, as well as further suggestions.
> >
> >Let me address the question: is latency an important issue?
> >
> >I contend that it is a matter of degree and of application.  How big  
> >is
> >the latency?  What latency is required by the user and application?
> >How small a latency could be expected from grid job submission?
> >
> >In some cases, the latency has been so bad that a user might wonder if
> >something was wrong, while they get a coffee.
> >
> >On the other hand, if an application really demands very fast  
> >interchange
> >of small messages, maybe the grid (and a wide-area network in  
> >general) is
> >not a good environment for it.  Maybe a cluster is called for.
> >
> >Currently, at best globusrun-ws imposes a delay on small jobs some  
> >five
> >times longer than that incurred by gsissh.  That still amounts to a
> >humanly-palpable delay of several seconds.
> >
> >Even if a code has been streamlined, it often in time picks up  
> >baggage;
> >code streamlined for one purpose could be unnecessarily slow for  
> >another.
> >
> >In any case, it behooves us to strive for the best latency we can  
> >get with
> >reasonable effort.
> >
> >Some suggestions are in the report.
> >
> >Cheers!
> >
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