On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Florian Müllner wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:44 AM Allin Cottrell <cottr...@wfu.edu> wrote:
Isn't there some dissonance here: "essential UI" embedded in
"decorations"? How did we come to this? [...] why not fix the WM
[...] rather than conflating UI with decoration?
Because it is not about working around any WM's (or more
precisely: theme's) whitespace issues, but about a philosophical
difference: Are windows containers that the system provides and
applications fill with content, or are they space that is entirely
under application control?
OK, I can see that that's a legitimate difference (I'd say a
"design" rather than a "philosophical" one, but hey). Fact is that
the first alternative has been the status quo for a long time and
IMO the second approach -- which is obviously quite disruptive,
whatever its merits -- calls for more argument pro than I've seen so
far. More than "It's the trend, so shut up and live with it, unless
you want to fork gtk".
You know what? It's a matter of taste - it's perfectly fine that
you pick a different answer than me. But telling us how bloated
and awful ...
I'm not saying that CSD as such is bloated and awful. I did say that
metacity had a bloated title-bar by default and I stand by that. If
CSD is not motivated by metacity's problems then I stand corrected
on that point.
Allin Cottrell
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