Hi Matthias, On 6 March 2015 at 02:12, Matthias Clasen <matthias.cla...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Olivier Fourdan <four...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have little desire to discuss the pros and cons of csd and whether > something essential (consistency ?!) was lost when we started using > them, but a few points are worth replying to.
I completely agree and this really wasn't my intention in the first place (thus the mention of CSD being a controversial topic at the beginning of the thread). I wouldn't want this thread to be hijacked to pursue some vendetta against CSD, GTK+ or any other particular concept/project. >> >> The use of Motif MWM hints for this is a anachronism IMHO, but that's >> another story. > > I agree somewhat. We used them because we thought that they would be > almost universally supported. That turned out to be farther from the > truth than expected. Yeah, we discussed that in some bugzilla iirc :) > But consider the alternative: If we had started > by suggesting a new cross-desktop spec for CSD, we would still be > arguing about protocols for proxying button clicks back and forth > today... Again, I won't disagree here, driving a cross-desktop spec to a wide consensus can be a daunting task. >> Ideally, GTK should be able to use CSD even without a compositor. The >> only reason it requires a compositor is because it uses the shadows as >> resize handles. Ideally, it should use a larger border width when >> there is no compositor - But that would another set of patches as not >> directly related to the hint proposed. > > Yes, I've been thinking that myself recently: We should fall back to > having 'fat borders' instead of 'invisible borders+shadow' if the > environment can't support them. A patch to do so would be most welcome > (I'm well aware that gtkwindow.c is not the easiest place to add new > functionality like this...) OK, I'll try to take a look at this, but I am not familiar with that particular code in GTK+, so don't hold your breath... Cheers, Olivier _______________________________________________ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
