Hi Alexander. I appreciate you clarifying this for us. It was a nice
surprise to read on Phoronix recently that you're still committing fixes &
improvements to the broadway codebase. I'd like to understand - has
anything changed in the past year that's brought you back to broadway? I
know there are still a handful of users around who would love to see this
continue ( some of them email me directly, and I have to answer: "sorry -
I'm just a user as well" ). If throwing money at the problem works, we
might be able to arrange that, maybe via a crowdfunding page, or something
less formal. Would it be worth it to you or Redhat?

Dan

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Alexander Larsson <al...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On ons, 2016-12-07 at 14:18 +1100, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I posting here in response to comments on bug:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775680 ( summary: broadway
> > support likely to be removed from Gtk+4.0 ).
> >
> > I think it would be a massive pity to drop broadway support from gtk.
> > It's been a god-send for me and those I work with - it provides the
> > best remote access to gtk apps and performs way better than vnc. I've
> > actually been working on an authentication + transparent proxy for
> > broadway, so multiple users can access multiple apps all via https on
> > port 443: https://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for-broadway-gt
> > k3-html5-backend/
>
> So, there are two issues with broadway.
>
> First of all, I wrote it mostly as a proof of concept of an interesting
> idea. I have zero cycles to spend on it anymore, nor do any of the
> other people who currently work on Gtk+. Its still there, because it
> just works and is not really a burden on the existing code unless you
> use it.
>
> Secondly, while it just keeps working in gtk3, the same is not true for
> Gtk4. We're doing massive changes to the internals of the drawing
> model, with the end goal of having a much more modern base targeting
> how current GPU hardware works. This is very much not how broadway
> works though, so there is some conflict here. For now, we have fallback
> code for the rendering that keeps broadway working, so we're keeping it
> around, but if at any point broadway becomes a problem to keep working
> we're going to drop. I don't really forsee this happening at the
> moment, but there are no guarantees.
>
> --
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> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>  Alexander Larsson                                            Red Hat, Inc
>        al...@redhat.com            alexander.lars...@gmail.com
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