Thanks Jeff...yes, that's what I'd call surging. What I and others are
experiencing is throttle response hesitation...two entirely different EFI
glitches...my GTS does not surge...never has...let's make sure we're talking
about the same thing on the list in future...

Cheers Joe.

-----Original Message-----
From: Boman, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TPS and FI relationship


Joe,

Holding the throttle steady anywhere in the 3200 to 3800 RPM range produced
a throttle "on-off".. "on-off" feeling.  It gave me the impression that the
EFI was sending fuel then not,then sending fuel, then not.....

Jeff B.

 -----Original Message-----
From: Burton, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TPS and FI relationship


Joe, mine's just like I said "only maintaining a low speed (at a
certain rpm ~2K) or very slight increase into the "surge" rpm. Chain
tension can make it worse as you said. Once lower or higher than the
"surge" rpm mine's fine, it only occurs in the one spot. It's really not
that bad, just annoying when caught in very slow moving traffic"

It's when I either try to maintain that certain low rpm or gradually get
to it that it occurs and it's a surge not a hesitation in my book.
Hesitation would be the more abrupt application of throttle and the FI
having a small "lag" in responding to the quick change. Best way I can
describe the behavior of mine.

Bob B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Loss, Joe [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TPS and FI relationship


Wait a minute...I asked this question a while back, describing exactly
the
same thing and I was told that no, the surging is (as I would imagine
the
name implies) you are holding the throttle constant and the revs are
increasing or decreasing. I have that initial hesitation upon gently
rolling
on the throttle from low revs and from what I've read this is fairly
common
on a lot of FI motorcycles. What happens is you roll the throttle on a
little to where you normally would expect a gentle response, nothing
happens, you roll a fraction more, nothing happens, then a fraction more
and
it takes off. Until you get used to the throttle control you often tend
to
roll on too quickly after the initial hesitation causing the bike to
lunge
forward. I don't consider it to be a significant annoyance now that I'm
familiar with it and I couldn't really imagine anyone getting as
bothered
over it as many on the list seem to be, unless it were true "surging".
So
what is it?...surging or hesitation?...will someone with bad surging
please
describe the symptoms again in detail...

Joe.

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