Thanks Mike: Bill Sowers http://www.localweb.com/mtrspts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Automatic digest processor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Recipients of GTS-1000 digests" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: GTS-1000 Digest - 25 Feb 2002 to 26 Feb 2002 - Special issue (#2002-35)
> There are 26 messages totalling 1006 lines in this issue. > > Topics in this special issue: > > 1. Digest (2) > 2. WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril (3) > 3. ABS Front Caliper > 4. GTS Accessories for Sale (2) > 5. <No subject given> > 6. An interesting read > 7. -- No Subject -- > 8. Brake O-ring Seals (6) > 9. Poker run and vintage bike show, March 2nd, northern FL > 10. K&N air filter info (2) > 11. K&N filter change > 12. Hawkes Wet One > 13. Reply to Peter's and Shawn's Replies to My ABS Failure Posting > 14. WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril (3) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:14:40 -0500 > From: Bill Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Digest > > How do you switch the "digest" part of this list off? I'd rather just get > the messages one at a time. It's real hard to get any continuity from the > digest. > Bill Sowers > http://www.localweb.com/mtrspts > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by me and AVG. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:35:18 -0700 > From: Spee-dee-D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > Duane, > > Thank you very much for taking the time to pen such a painful event. I use > to test mine on the road also, but will DEFINITELY STOP doing that! I'm > very sorry that you have been hurt and my thoughts and heartfelt sympathies > go out to you. I have experienced some pretty extensive road rash that > nearly ground off a few bones. I hope you are pleasantly surprised by the > healing powers of the amazing human body. > > All the best > GWN > Daren > > PS. I'm glad I didn't sell my GTS at that time, although I seriously > considered it. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:23:59 -0500 > From: Michael Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Digest > > --On Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:14 AM -0500 Bill Sowers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do you switch the "digest" part of this list off? I'd rather just get > > the messages one at a time. It's real hard to get any continuity from the > > digest. > > Bill Sowers > > http://www.localweb.com/mtrspts > > Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message body reading: > > set gts-1000 nodigest > > Take care, > Mike > > -- > Michael Weaver (706)542-6462 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Engineering Services EITS > University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( > Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:36:04 -0500 > From: mototune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > Hi Duane. You have my best wishes on a complete recovery. I know what a knee > injury is like & it's not a pleasant thing. However , in your report you > mention changing the ABS unit & flushing the unit every 6 months & that's > all well, but you don't mention any service on your brake caliplers. It > sounds like might have experienced a caliper problem rather that an ABS HU > failure. Since the HU is designed not to interfere with normal braking > action when it has even the slightest problem & it doesn't actually have > anything to do with keeping or holding in the hydraulic pressure ( it > releases pressure). Your GTS doesn't have much mileage but it does have age > . Dirt still piles in places where we least expect it & mileage isn't > necessarily the only indicator for parts like calipers for example. When was > the last time you removed the front & rear caliper & did a major cleaning or > overhaul in this area? Just because Yamaha changed your HU on warranty > doesn't really mean the mechanic that did the job actually paid any or much > attention to the caliper(s). More often than not with sticky calipers a > visual inspection or passing a rag doesn't cure the problem. A complete > dissasembly with a thorough cleaning does wonders. Also a sticky caliper > doesn't necessarily stick or malfunction all the time. Anyways it just a > couple of thoughts. I hope you get well & get to the route of this glitch > before you sell your GTS because the next owner will still have this to deal > with. You're right in letting him\her know of this & hopefully with it > cured. Be good. Good recovery. Peter Piazza > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duane and Mala Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:12 PM > Subject: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > > THE SHORT VERSION: Your GTS front ABS can fail without warning and lock > your front wheel and if it does so, the ABS warning light will not activate. > Do not road test your front ABS. Use the static test only, but fully > realize this may not be a true indicator of whether or not your front ABS > will work when it is supposed to. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:53:00 -0800 > From: Shawn Pearsall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: ABS Front Caliper > > I took all your advice and took the from caliper off my bike a few weeks > ago. Found the pistons to be tilted on two of the chambers. a few pits as > well...like rock hits to the piston as you drove. some very minor > scuffing...two pits caused by these rocks I'm guessing. At 26K it's time > for a major brake overhaul I guess....at least by hand verses at the shop. > Not hard to do...just takes time. I'm searching for dimensions of the > o-ring seals (admittedly haven't pulled out the manual yet) and will go to a > local industrial supplier for replacements...should be 2-3$ each I'm told by > my Ducati friends....some special material (starts with a "B"...but I'm > brain dead this morning!) > > I agree with Peter's assessment. ABS was probably great...the caliper > probably got stuck from what I have now seen on my own bike. > > Rest (a lot) do not over stress the knee...they can come back if you do not > over extend yourself....this is one of those things where you either do what > the doctor says...or you live on ibuprofen the next few decades....follow > the doctors orders! > > Get well > > Shawn P > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:07:59 EST > From: Tim Sculley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: GTS Accessories for Sale > > I may be interested in the givi bags will to call tonight or tomorrow night > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:20:44 -0500 > From: Shawn Pearsall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: <No subject given> > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:22:26 -0500 > From: Shawn Pearsall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: An interesting read > > Here's another one of those articles to go along with "the Pace" it's on > the SVRiders website....a fabulous set of pages for someone that wants to > tweak the living daylights out of their SV > > http://www.svrider.com/articles/2001may_cornering.htm > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:24:45 +0000 > From: Eugene Boyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: -- No Subject -- > > Outgoing mail is certified content free! > > Eugene SA#99 > On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:20:44 -0500 Shawn Pearsall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002 > > -- > Eugene Boyle > Heriot-Watt University > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:41:08 -0800 > From: Tom Sheraden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: GTS Accessories for Sale > > Tim, > Thanks for your interest, but the bags have sold. > Regards, > Tom > --- Tim Sculley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I may be interested in the givi bags will to call > > tonight or tomorrow night > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:07:40 -0700 > From: Grant Gall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Brake O-ring Seals > > Shawn, > > "I'm searching for dimensions of the o-ring seals (admittedly haven't pulled out the manual yet) and will go to a local industrial supplier for replacements...should be 2-3$ each I'm told by my Ducati friends....some special material (starts with a "B"...but I'm > brain dead this morning!)" > > I do believe you mean Buna-N. But make sure you are sure BEFORE ordering. Specific rubbers (back off S/A's) do weird things when introduced to different chemicals. > > $2 - $3 each would be very expensive, unless those shops have a minimum charge they make you pay. > > My .02. > > Grant Gall > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:28:22 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Poker run and vintage bike show, March 2nd, northern FL > > Greetings! > > The Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club is holding the annual Concours > d'Elegance on Saturday, March 2nd (first weekend of Bike Week!) as a fund > raiser for the Susan Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. The Concours is one of > the USA's premier vintage motorcycle shows, and the Komen Foundation is a > nationally recognized charity dedicated to eradicating breast cancer. > > This year's theme is the racing motorcycle. > > In addition, a Poker Run has been added to the events. We'll leave from > Indian Motorcycles in Jacksonville at 11AM, ride along the St. John's River, > hit the Outback Crab Shack oyster bar and the Kings Head British Pub, and > make our way to the Concours at the World Golf Village a bit north of St. > Augustine. Your entry into the Poker Run will get you into the Concours. > > More info on the Concours and the Poker Run can be found at <A > HREF="www.ridingintohistory.com">www.ridingintohistory.com</A> or by > emailing Yours Truly. > > Best regards, and I hope to see y'all there! > > PirateJohn -- Directeur Sportif, Team Confuzed > Jacksonville Beaches, FL > > "Mother, mother ocean, > I have heard your call." -- Jimmy Buffett, a Pirate Looks at 40 > > Keeper of the HumourList at <A > HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/PirateJohn/pirate1.html";> > http://hometown.aol.com/PirateJohn/pirate1.html</A> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:41:05 -0800 > From: "Thomas H. Keyworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: K&N air filter info > > Just use a putty knife or thin screwdriver.... the plastic pretty much pops > right off from the glue seal. Just be sure of where the seams are so you > don't seperate what shouldn't be seperated. > > -Thomas > =========================== > Thomas H. Keyworth > http://www.keyworth.net > http://www.district37ama.org > http://www.wallyscycleworld.com > =========================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spee-dee-D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:34 PM > Subject: Re: K&N air filter info > > > > Thanks Pablo. No tips on how to disassemble the original ones? > > > > Hey Nick, those pictures look familiar? > > > > GWN > > Daren > > > > > > <<snip>> > > Hey guys, > > For those interested in K&N filters just remember to visit > > http://www.gentei.org/~itoh036/036gts/knfilter/index.html > > I did it last week. Don't panic when realize that YA-1098 is not the one > in > > the pics, it fits. > > Good luck, you'll need some. > > > > Pablo. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:36:42 -0800 > From: "Boman, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Brake O-ring Seals > > Shawn, > > If you are looking for definition of the O-ring that fits between the two > halves of the caliper, good luck. I was not able to locate any > picture/diagram that even shows it. When I rebuild my rear caliper in a > couple of weeks I will measure the o-ring and go to the local auto parts > place for a replacement. If you locate any info. about the o-ring, please > put it on the list. > > Thanks, > > Jeff B. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant Gall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Brake O-ring Seals > > > Shawn, > > "I'm searching for dimensions of the o-ring seals (admittedly haven't pulled > out the manual yet) and will go to a local industrial supplier for > replacements...should be 2-3$ each I'm told by my Ducati friends....some > special material (starts with a "B"...but I'm > brain dead this morning!)" > > I do believe you mean Buna-N. But make sure you are sure BEFORE ordering. > Specific rubbers (back off S/A's) do weird things when introduced to > different chemicals. > > $2 - $3 each would be very expensive, unless those shops have a minimum > charge they make you pay. > > My .02. > > Grant Gall > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:09:53 -0500 > From: Shawn Pearsall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Brake O-ring Seals > > Will do guys! > > If Brandon would get off his ass and get that Technical website done (hey > you don't need a personal life pal!) then we could begin to come close to > that SV site earlier...obviously we're only as good as our weakest link > :) > > Good Bye! > > #2 > > > Hey is someone takes the Smart Ass number #99 like earlier...does that mean > they are THE GREAT ONE of SA's? > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:06:46 -0500 > From: Shawn Pearsall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Brake O-ring Seals > > Yeah Buna-N that's the word I was looking for...right on the tip of my > tongue! > > Big Kahuna Buna-N > > My Duc friends (and one of them is a gm for a metal shop...) says this is > what you want for the calipers and synthetic brake fluid > > SP > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:22:19 +0100 > From: pablo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: K&N filter change > > It's difficult to say as the clutch seems to slip. > I've really noticed the clutch slipping more since done it!!! > I've realized of some little lost at low rpm witch seems to be compensated > with a little more power from 6.000 to the end. > > My advise is "be creative". > It's not complicated, but as it's the first time it's done, you may > complicate things by yourself. Find the right glue, and read carefully > instructions. There's a world of different kinds and usages of glue. (I used > one kind. Not satisfied. Then reglued with other.) > Air filter is a silly thing, but it's mission is quite important. > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Michael Hahne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: martes, 26 de febrero de 2002 18:04 > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Asunto: K&N filter change > > > Pablo, > Did you notice ANY change in performance, etc. with the K&N filters > installed in your GTS? > > Just wondering if it was worth all the effort. > > Thanks, > > Mike H. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:56:18 -0800 > From: "Rev. Baroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Brake O-ring Seals > > What about regular brakefluid? > Will that eat the Buna-N seals? > > Carl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shawn Pearsall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My Duc friends (and one of them is a gm for a metal shop...) says this is > what you want for the calipers and synthetic brake fluid > > SP > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:07:31 -0800 > From: "Loss, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Brake O-ring Seals > > According to this source Buna-N is rated POOR for Brake Fluid: > > O-Ring Materials Compatible with Brake Fluid: > > Aflas (4) Buna-N (Nitrile) (1) Butyl (4) > Chemraz (0) Epichlorohydrin (1) Ethylene-Propylene (4) > Fluorocarbon (1) Fluorosilicone (1) Hypalon (0) > Kalrez (0) Natural Rubber (1) Neoprene (1) > Nitrile, Hydrogenated (3) Polyacrylate (1) Polysulfide (3) > Polyurethane, Cast (1) Polyurethane, Millable (0) Silicone (0) > Styrene Butadiene (4) Teflon, Virgin (4) Vamac (1) > > (4) Good, both for static and dynamic seals > (3) Fair, usually OK for static seals > (2) Sometimes OK for static seals; not OK for dynamic seals > (1) Poor > (0) No Data > > For more info see; > > > http://www.efunda.com/DesignStandards/oring/oring_chemical.cfm?SM=none&SC=Br > ake%20Fluid#mat > > Joe. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rev. Baroon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Brake O-ring Seals > > > What about regular brakefluid? > Will that eat the Buna-N seals? > > Carl > > > ============================================================================ ================ > NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > ============================================================================ == > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:21:45 -0000 > From: "nicholas.threader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: K&N air filter info > > >Hey Nick, those pictures look familiar? > > They sure are , they were posted by someone some time ago . > I just saved them to disc i case anyone needed them in the future . > > atb Nick T > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:57:56 -0500 > From: Duane and Mala Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > Daren, > > Thank you for the kind words and thoughts. I hope that your injuries have > healed well. The jury is still out on my knee, but I am optimistic. On the > plus side, my big toe doesn't really hurt anymore. :^) > > I am VERY glad to hear that you will not be road testing your ABS anymore. > > Keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down, > Duane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spee-dee-D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > Duane, > > Thank you very much for taking the time to pen such a painful event. I use > to test mine on the road also, but will DEFINITELY STOP doing that! I'm > very sorry that you have been hurt and my thoughts and heartfelt sympathies > go out to you. I have experienced some pretty extensive road rash that > nearly ground off a few bones. I hope you are pleasantly surprised by the > healing powers of the amazing human body. > > All the best > GWN > Daren > > PS. I'm glad I didn't sell my GTS at that time, although I seriously > considered it. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:28:38 -0000 > From: Barry Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Hawkes Wet One > > I hadn't seen this one before ! > > http://i2.yimg.com/2/7fc4/g/6ffa6397.jpg > > > Barry Edwards > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:10:33 -0500 > From: Duane and Mala Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Reply to Peter's and Shawn's Replies to My ABS Failure Posting > > Peter, > > I thank you for your good wishes and advice. I'll be sure to have my > mechanic check out the front caliper when he is getting to the bottom of why > I experienced the problem that I did. Better yet, after I notify Yamaha > corporate about my experience, perhaps they will have one of their experts > look into the problem. I do know that no one is going to be able to > determine the cause of the failure until they have personally inspected the > motorcycle. My first hand experience with the maintenance > history/mechanical condition of my motorcycle and the sequence of events > during my incident make me 100% positive that the ABS system and not the > caliper was the culprit. If I am proven wrong when the caliper is > inspected, I will gladly eat my helmet. :^) > > I know you weren't attacking my service guy in your post, but for the > record, in all of my dealings with him he has proven to be an extremely > competent mechanic and technician (this has NOT been my experience with all > Yamaha mechanics). He was very thorough at the time that he replaced my > ABS pump. I know this because I assisted him during the entire procedure > (o.k., he let me stand there next to him while he did the work and I held > stuff for him from time to time). :^) He inspected the entire brake system > during the procedure including the calipers and he declared the system to be > in excellent health. I especially remember him telling me and showing me > that the calipers were in excellent condition because I had asked him about > them specifically. I had asked him about the calipers for a very good > reason. Before I had the ABS pump replaced, I had written the GTS list > about my rear wheel locking up (I was too chicken to test the front brake at > that time. I wish I had been too chicken this past Saturday). In response > to that post, someone had written me back suggesting that the rear caliper > was sticking. The calipers were not sticking then and I do not suspect that > they are sticking now. > > Also, least anyone misunderstand, I am fully versed in the operating theory > involved with an anti-lock braking system. I fully understand that "the HU > is designed not to interfere with normal braking action when it has even the > slightest problem". Unfortunately, the GTS ABS system is apparently not > very proficient at determining when there is a problem. To add insult to > injury (no pun intended), it won't even acknowledge when it has failed and > one of the wheels has actually locked up. Maybe if I can get both wheels to > lock up at the same time one day, that darn ABS fault light will finally > activate. :^) > > The incident I experienced this weekend happened over the span of a second > or so. The ABS system did activate and try to release brake pressure as > indicated by the lever dropping back toward the bar. Things were happening > very quickly, but it did seem that after the lever dropped back towards the > bar that the front brake did release slightly before it went into full > lockdown mode. That brief moment of ABS malfunction delayed my reaction > time just long enough to put me into a near unrecoverable position. Safely > recovering from a locked front wheel on any motorcycle is hard enough > without a malfunctioning ABS system screwing with things at the same time. > Again, I'll eat my helmet if a malfunctioning front caliper had anything to > do with it. In fact, I'll also eat my red white and blue Elvis racing > boots, too. :^) > > Shawn, > > Thanks for the good wishes, I'll be sure to follow your recuperative advise. > Sorry to hear about the problems that you are having with your front > caliper. Man, what kind of roads do you drive on? After seeing your post > I actually went out and looked at the front end of my motorcycle to try and > figure out how rocks could have hit your brake pistons. With the caliper > nestled inside the front wheel like it is that looks like it would be very > difficult to happen. You haven't been off-roading on your GTS have you? > :^) > > I have skinned the tires and performed the routine brake maintenance on all > of my motorcycles for many years. During each of those occasions with the > GTS I have always cleaned and inspected the brake calipers as thoroughly as > I could without completely disassembling them and everything has always > appeared to be in excellent condition (the last time I did this was less > than 3,000 miles ago). Functionally, the regular brake system (excluding > the ABS) has never given any indication of a problem. My goodness, my GTS > has rarely ever been ridden in the rain, it has never been ridden down a > dirt road, it's only got 18,000 miles on the clock, and it is always parked > in an enclosed garage when it is at home. I can assure you that with the > high level of care and attention this motorcycle has experienced, something > like a seizing brake caliper would not have escaped my attention. > > I should point out that I have never had the ABS activate during a real > emergency braking situation except for the rare occasional flutter of the > back portion of the system during maximum weight transfer to the front > wheel. The most excellent regular braking attributes of the GTS have never > required me to cross over the ABS threshold on the front end. > > Thanks to all and I will keep you posted as I find out more. > > Duane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mototune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:36 AM > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shawn Pearsall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:53 AM > Subject: ABS Front Caliper > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:37:40 -0500 > From: Walt Garcen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > I'd also check the connector for the front wheel sensor. It's behind the > lower left faring. Mine was dirty and was sending intermittent signals at > one time to the ABS controller and speedo. I cleaned the contacts and all > was good. > > - Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: GTS-1000 Owners List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of mototune > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > Hi Duane. You have my best wishes on a complete recovery. I know what a knee > injury is like & it's not a pleasant thing. However , in your report you > mention changing the ABS unit & flushing the unit every 6 months & that's > all well, but you don't mention any service on your brake caliplers. It > sounds like might have experienced a caliper problem rather that an ABS HU > failure. Since the HU is designed not to interfere with normal braking > action when it has even the slightest problem & it doesn't actually have > anything to do with keeping or holding in the hydraulic pressure ( it > releases pressure). Your GTS doesn't have much mileage but it does have age > . Dirt still piles in places where we least expect it & mileage isn't > necessarily the only indicator for parts like calipers for example. When was > the last time you removed the front & rear caliper & did a major cleaning or > overhaul in this area? Just because Yamaha changed your HU on warranty > doesn't really mean the mechanic that did the job actually paid any or much > attention to the caliper(s). More often than not with sticky calipers a > visual inspection or passing a rag doesn't cure the problem. A complete > dissasembly with a thorough cleaning does wonders. Also a sticky caliper > doesn't necessarily stick or malfunction all the time. Anyways it just a > couple of thoughts. I hope you get well & get to the route of this glitch > before you sell your GTS because the next owner will still have this to deal > with. You're right in letting him\her know of this & hopefully with it > cured. Be good. Good recovery. Peter Piazza > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duane and Mala Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:12 PM > Subject: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > > THE SHORT VERSION: Your GTS front ABS can fail without warning and lock > your front wheel and if it does so, the ABS warning light will not activate. > Do not road test your front ABS. Use the static test only, but fully > realize this may not be a true indicator of whether or not your front ABS > will work when it is supposed to. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:05:32 -0500 > From: Duane and Mala Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > Walt, > > My speedometer has not been malfunctioning, but I will check that connector. > When yours was sending intermittent signals to the ABS controller did it > cause the ABS light to indicate a fault with the system? > > Thanks, > Duane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walt Garcen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > I'd also check the connector for the front wheel sensor. It's behind the > lower left faring. Mine was dirty and was sending intermittent signals at > one time to the ABS controller and speedo. I cleaned the contacts and all > was good. > > - Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: GTS-1000 Owners List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of mototune > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > Hi Duane. You have my best wishes on a complete recovery. I know what a knee > injury is like & it's not a pleasant thing. However , in your report you > mention changing the ABS unit & flushing the unit every 6 months & that's > all well, but you don't mention any service on your brake caliplers. It > sounds like might have experienced a caliper problem rather that an ABS HU > failure. Since the HU is designed not to interfere with normal braking > action when it has even the slightest problem & it doesn't actually have > anything to do with keeping or holding in the hydraulic pressure ( it > releases pressure). Your GTS doesn't have much mileage but it does have age > . Dirt still piles in places where we least expect it & mileage isn't > necessarily the only indicator for parts like calipers for example. When was > the last time you removed the front & rear caliper & did a major cleaning or > overhaul in this area? Just because Yamaha changed your HU on warranty > doesn't really mean the mechanic that did the job actually paid any or much > attention to the caliper(s). More often than not with sticky calipers a > visual inspection or passing a rag doesn't cure the problem. A complete > dissasembly with a thorough cleaning does wonders. Also a sticky caliper > doesn't necessarily stick or malfunction all the time. Anyways it just a > couple of thoughts. I hope you get well & get to the route of this glitch > before you sell your GTS because the next owner will still have this to deal > with. You're right in letting him\her know of this & hopefully with it > cured. Be good. Good recovery. Peter Piazza > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duane and Mala Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:12 PM > Subject: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > > THE SHORT VERSION: Your GTS front ABS can fail without warning and lock > your front wheel and if it does so, the ABS warning light will not activate. > Do not road test your front ABS. Use the static test only, but fully > realize this may not be a true indicator of whether or not your front ABS > will work when it is supposed to. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:24:37 -0500 > From: Walt Garcen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > I don't recall ever seeing the light flash, but there was a fault recorded > in memory if I recall (the details are a bit fuzzy). > > - Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: GTS-1000 Owners List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Duane and Mala Sutton > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > Walt, > > My speedometer has not been malfunctioning, but I will check that connector. > When yours was sending intermittent signals to the ABS controller did it > cause the ABS light to indicate a fault with the system? > > Thanks, > Duane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walt Garcen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > I'd also check the connector for the front wheel sensor. It's behind the > lower left faring. Mine was dirty and was sending intermittent signals at > one time to the ABS controller and speedo. I cleaned the contacts and all > was good. > > - Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: GTS-1000 Owners List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of mototune > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own > Peril > > > Hi Duane. You have my best wishes on a complete recovery. I know what a knee > injury is like & it's not a pleasant thing. However , in your report you > mention changing the ABS unit & flushing the unit every 6 months & that's > all well, but you don't mention any service on your brake caliplers. It > sounds like might have experienced a caliper problem rather that an ABS HU > failure. Since the HU is designed not to interfere with normal braking > action when it has even the slightest problem & it doesn't actually have > anything to do with keeping or holding in the hydraulic pressure ( it > releases pressure). Your GTS doesn't have much mileage but it does have age > . Dirt still piles in places where we least expect it & mileage isn't > necessarily the only indicator for parts like calipers for example. When was > the last time you removed the front & rear caliper & did a major cleaning or > overhaul in this area? Just because Yamaha changed your HU on warranty > doesn't really mean the mechanic that did the job actually paid any or much > attention to the caliper(s). More often than not with sticky calipers a > visual inspection or passing a rag doesn't cure the problem. A complete > dissasembly with a thorough cleaning does wonders. Also a sticky caliper > doesn't necessarily stick or malfunction all the time. Anyways it just a > couple of thoughts. I hope you get well & get to the route of this glitch > before you sell your GTS because the next owner will still have this to deal > with. You're right in letting him\her know of this & hopefully with it > cured. Be good. Good recovery. Peter Piazza > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duane and Mala Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:12 PM > Subject: WARNING: Road Test Your Front Anti-Lock Brakes at Your Own Peril > > > THE SHORT VERSION: Your GTS front ABS can fail without warning and lock > your front wheel and if it does so, the ABS warning light will not activate. > Do not road test your front ABS. Use the static test only, but fully > realize this may not be a true indicator of whether or not your front ABS > will work when it is supposed to. > > ------------------------------ > > End of GTS-1000 Digest - 25 Feb 2002 to 26 Feb 2002 - Special issue (#2002-35) > **************************************************************************** ** > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by me and AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002
