Dear John, that is what I am looking for: a touring bike like the GTS an in addition a racebike for short-trips. I had the CBR900RR till last August, terrific! But my wife was always arguing after one hour riding. I never tried the R1, but realised, that it is a quite small one! Concerning the heavy steering of the GTS I jump from one side to the other and have only my leg on the seat. If I do this, the steering is quite easy :-)).
Concerning the 93rd minute - it was hard to take - but it was only fair! Ireland always played best soccer from my point of view and I would be more than happy to have someone like Mr. Duff or Harte playing for Germany. All the best to your team - and that we will have the chance to be in the final together! Best regards Ingo -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: John Griffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 17:10 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: GTS vs. FJR1300 Hi Ingo I was interested to read your e-mail on the GTS v. FJR and though I have not driven the FJR I would agree with everything you say. When I saw the first pictures of the FJR I was about 80% convinced I would change i.e. trade in my '93 GTS but the more I read the more disappointed I became and as you say the price did not help at all, about 15,000 Euro here in Ireland. I'm a Yamaha nut and have a year 2000 R1 from new as well by the way. I think the FJR is very much overpriced, Yamaha have a history of overpricing unfortunately and would sell a lot more machines if prices were more realistic to begin with, it's something I complain about all the time on Yamaha's Europe Website ( and also the quality of finish). If you do get an R1 be a little careful if you ride both bike's back to back especially if you jump from the GTS to the R1 because you will tend to drive the R1 very fast !! I regularly get up to 175 km/h no problem at all on the R1 !!! Going from the R1 to the GTS can have its own problems in that the steering will seem really heavy, (like a flat tire) the other thing I would say could catch you out is low speed or walking pace manoeuvres-the GTS will seem to weigh as much as a car !! I find myself revving the GTS harder when I swop from the R1, which is OK as long as the road is not too twisty but I've tied myself in "knots" at times. Did you watch the match !!!!! Sorry about the 93rd minute goal !!!!!!!! Regards John Griffin Cork Ireland -----Original Message----- From: Ingo Scholle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 June 2002 09:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: GTS vs. FJR1300 Importance: High Hi Henry, I tried the FJR for an hour and had a good feeling. It is easier to push it in curves (because the center of gravity point seems to be lower than the GTS-one�s)and has an amazing acceleration. But it all looks like plastics and the comfort for your knees hasn't improved much compared to the our beloved GTS. Better is the standard disposer in comparison to GTS: you sit in a more upright position. Concerning the max-speed I had to stop ad 160 km/h, because driving in a german city has a speed limit and I had no opportunity to drive on a highway, so I am not able to say something about drivability at speedmax.. The killing point -in Germany - is the price. 13.000 Euro and another 1.000 Euro for the cases - for the same you'll get a new BMW 1150 which has a much higher resale price. After all I will stay with my GTS, maybe I�ll add a R1 next year - for diversification! All the best Ingo -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Henry S. Winokur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 4. Juni 2002 19:16 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: GTS vs. FJR1300 > > Well, I am sure if they ever come out with a new version, it > will be much > > more competively priced than the previous version. I think that is the > > main reason that the GTS was a slow seller, price !!! > > My feeling on that was not only the price but the fact that it was TOO > technologically advanced for most people. Just look at all the folks who > think Harleys are now "modern". > > What I'd like to see: a more sit-up riding position with more leg room > (yes, I'm over 6' tall and lots of legs with knees that don't bend very ^^^^ That should have been "leg-length". I have 2 legs like most of the rest of you! > well), hard luggage that I don't have to pay extra for, shaft drive, > stone-reliable ABS, and better sorted out EFI (no surging at all, cold or > hot). The weight isn't a factor for me. Coming off a > Concours, this bike > seems like a lightweight as it is. > > Regards, > > Henry S. Winokur > 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, > Nationally Certified Riding Instructor > Columbia, MD Ride for Kids Task Force > West Bethesda, MD USA >
