I still believe that the FJR is a fine motorcycle. However feedback from current owners is still not entirely positive.
A recent posting (posting no.1330) by a fella recently back from a European tour at :- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahafjr1300club/ left little doubt of his thoughts. Bad enough in fact to decide to sell it. Perhaps this is just a rogue machine, but it is food for thought. Personally I still feel good about my decision to opt for the GTS. Barry Edwards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingo Scholle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: AW: GTS vs. FJR1300 > Dear John, > > that is what I am looking for: a touring bike like the GTS an in addition a > racebike for short-trips. I had the CBR900RR till last August, terrific! But > my wife was always arguing after one hour riding. I never tried the R1, but > realised, that it is a quite small one! Concerning the heavy steering of the > GTS I jump from one side to the other and have only my leg on the seat. If I > do this, the steering is quite easy :-)). > > Concerning the 93rd minute - it was hard to take - but it was only fair! > Ireland always played best soccer from my point of view and I would be more > than happy to have someone like Mr. Duff or Harte playing for Germany. > > All the best to your team - and that we will have the chance to be in the > final together! > > Best regards > > Ingo > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: John Griffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 17:10 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: GTS vs. FJR1300 > > Hi Ingo > > I was interested to read your e-mail on the GTS v. FJR and though I have not > driven the FJR I would agree with everything you say. When I saw the first > pictures of the FJR I was about 80% convinced I would change i.e. trade in > my '93 GTS > but the more I read the more disappointed I became and as you say the price > did not help at all, > about 15,000 Euro here in Ireland. I'm a Yamaha nut and have a year 2000 R1 > from new as well by the way. > I think the FJR is very much overpriced, Yamaha have a history of > overpricing unfortunately and would > sell a lot more machines if prices were more realistic to begin with, it's > something I complain about all the time on > Yamaha's Europe Website ( and also the quality of finish). > If you do get an R1 be a little careful if you ride both bike's back to back > especially if you jump from the > GTS to the R1 because you will tend to drive the R1 very fast !! I regularly > get up to 175 km/h no problem at all > on the R1 !!! Going from the R1 to the GTS can have its own problems in > that the steering will seem really heavy, (like a flat tire) > the other thing I would say could catch you out is low speed or walking pace > manoeuvres-the GTS will seem to weigh > as much as a car !! I find myself revving the GTS harder when I swop from > the R1, which is OK as long as the road is > not too twisty but I've tied myself in "knots" at times. > > Did you watch the match !!!!! Sorry about the 93rd minute goal !!!!!!!! > > Regards > > John Griffin > Cork > Ireland > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ingo Scholle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 June 2002 09:42 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: AW: GTS vs. FJR1300 > Importance: High > > > Hi Henry, > > I tried the FJR for an hour and had a good feeling. It is easier to push it > in curves (because the center of gravity point seems to be lower than the > GTS-one�s)and has an amazing acceleration. But it all looks like plastics > and the comfort for your knees hasn't improved much compared to the our > beloved GTS. Better is the standard disposer in comparison to GTS: you sit > in a more upright position. Concerning the max-speed I had to stop ad 160 > km/h, because driving in a german city has a speed limit and I had no > opportunity to drive on a highway, so I am not able to say something about > drivability at speedmax.. The killing point -in Germany - is the price. > 13.000 Euro and another 1.000 Euro for the cases - for the same you'll get a > new BMW 1150 which has a much higher resale price. > > After all I will stay with my GTS, maybe I�ll add a R1 next year - for > diversification! > > All the best > > Ingo > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Henry S. Winokur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 4. Juni 2002 19:16 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: GTS vs. FJR1300 > > > > Well, I am sure if they ever come out with a new version, it > > will be much > > > more competively priced than the previous version. I think that is the > > > main reason that the GTS was a slow seller, price !!! > > > > My feeling on that was not only the price but the fact that it was TOO > > technologically advanced for most people. Just look at all the folks who > > think Harleys are now "modern". > > > > What I'd like to see: a more sit-up riding position with more leg room > > (yes, I'm over 6' tall and lots of legs with knees that don't bend very > ^^^^ > That should have been "leg-length". I have 2 legs like most of the rest of > you! > > > well), hard luggage that I don't have to pay extra for, shaft drive, > > stone-reliable ABS, and better sorted out EFI (no surging at all, cold or > > hot). The weight isn't a factor for me. Coming off a > > Concours, this bike > > seems like a lightweight as it is. > > > > Regards, > > > > Henry S. Winokur > > 94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, > > Nationally Certified Riding Instructor > > Columbia, MD Ride for Kids Task Force > > West Bethesda, MD USA > >
