See there Daren! You've been peening the head of your pin too close to your plate! I understand this happens to single guys a lot when they're not getting enough rides in.....know what I mean (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). : ^)
Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kevinhawk.com Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 //'93 Yamaha GTS1000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Actually you don't roll over the end of the pin anywhere near the plate. The instructions that come with the rivet tool and chain give you a diameter that the end of the pin must be spread too...more than that is not recommended. The flared end of the pin is then just right to hold the side plate in place without binding. -----Original Message----- From: Daren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: seeking chain advice Yeah, you could be right John. I probably tried to round the head of the pin too much. I figured that because of the importance of that link staying together, and never having seen what it looks like when peened by the proper tool, that I would play it safe and make sure I had it peened over enough. The other factor is that you need to roll the metal over close enough to the link's side plate to make sure the plate is seated (correct link width) onto the pins where it needs to be. Otherwise you might end up with a peened pin and a loose plate (I've heard stories about some married folks having experienced this phenomenon). {:-0 GWN Daren Quoting John Laurenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Daren, > > > If you hit the link that hard to peen it, you will probably locked up the > link. It only takes a few light taps to lock the link in place. A few > light taps doesn't bother the sprocket at all. If you beat the hell out of > it the link to flatten the head, the chain will kink as it rotates on the > sprocket and beating it will damage the sprocket. That isn't necessary , > it > only takes a very slight flattening of the tip to lock the master link on > the chain. If you question that, try it and then try to remove the link > after a few light taps. It takes a grinder to get the link apart once the > head is even slightly peened. > > > John "Hawke" Laurenson, Jr. > > http://homepage.mac.com/johnlaurenson > > > > > > > > On 9/24/02 12:41 AM, "Spee-dee-D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't know about hammering against the sprocket?!?! That doesn't sound > > too good to me. I put together my first "peened" masterlink this spring > and > > it took some pretty heavy blows with a hefty hammer and punch on one side > > and a large steel anvil on the other side (resting on the floor and > > supported by my daughter). I will definitely be looking to borrow the > > proper tool next time. I think you also might want to measure the > distance > > between the plates once together to make sure they are the same distance > > apart as the other links. > > > > GWN > > Daren > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: GTS-1000 Owners List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > >> Of John Laurenson > >> Sent: September 23, 2002 7:52 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: seeking chain advice > >> > >> > >> Kevin, > >> > >> All you need is a pair of needle nose vicegrips and a center punch. The > >> ends of the rivet master link are a very soft steel. Hold the side > plates > >> on tight with the vicegrip. The tips flatten out and hold with a > >> couple of > >> light taps of a hammer and center punch with the master link > >> sitting on the > >> sprocket when you hit them. I have never had any problem with their > ever > >> coming lose after being pinned. > >> > >> hawke > >> > >> On 9/23/02 9:30 AM, "Kevin Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> I need to replace the chain on my GTS. In the past, I've simply > >> used a DID > >>> Gold X-ring 530 VM with clip-type master link. This time, I'd > >> like to maybe > >>> buy the DID ZVM 530 with rivet master link! Could any of you WONDERFUL > >>> listers like to ship me your chain riveter tool for a couple of days? > >>> PLEASE!?!??!!?? I'll be glad to pay postage both ways! I'd buy the > >>> Motion-pro tools myself but they run around $80 and I just > >> don't use often > >>> enough. > >>> > >>> Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> http://www.kevinhawk.com > >>> Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 //'93 Yamaha GTS1000 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --On Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:23 PM -0400 Derek Baylor > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Just yesterday I found that the clip on my chain master link had > >>>> vanished. I have no idea how long it's been gone, but it sure > >> freaks me > >>>> out the idea of having my chain fall apart. I'd like to use a > regular, > >>>> non-clip style masterlink, but I've never used one before and want to > >>>> make sure I don't screw up. Can anyone recommend the proper tools and > >>>> technique needed, or where I might find this information? > >>> > >>> > >>> I started using non-clip (rivet-type) master links just recently. After > >>> messing around with the stupid clip for some time (my master clip had a > >>> press fit side plate), I bought the Motion-Pro > >> chain-breaker/riveter. Works > >>> a treat! > >>> > >>> If you can get the side plate on, you can rivet the pins with a > >> hammer and > >>> a drift, but I think geting a chain riveter would be easier and more > >>> precise, plus it can be used to break cam chains and stuff if you do > any > >>> engine repair. > >>> > >>> So, with a riveter: > >>> > >>> 1) Thread the chain on the bike > >>> 2) Put the master link in place, ensure that the O-rings are in place > >>> properly > >>> 3) Press on the side link > >>> 4) Rivet the pins (basically, mushrooming out their heads) > >>> 5) Make sure the side plate is on good (I pry on it a bit) > >>> 6) Adjust the chain. > >>> > >>> There are more details there, but if you have installed a clip > >> masterlink > >>> chain, you know all this already. :-) > >>> > >>> Take care, > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Michael Weaver (706)542-6462 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Engineering Services EITS > >>> University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( > >>> Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html > >> > >> > ====================================================================================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. 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