Have you looked at the V STROM?
-Pete

--- Spee-dee-D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback Bob.  I was looking at them
> today and they seem (to
> me) to have a much higher build quality than the
> Japanese bikes.  I asked
> about the price of parts and they told me that brake
> levers and fork seal
> use to be expensive and that KTM is now using
> another supplier who is much
> more reasonably priced (in line with Japanese
> prices).  Even with that said
> though, I'm unfortunately not financially in a
> position right now to justify
> the price difference, nor do I intend to use the
> bike for more than just off
> road pleasure riding.  So I have decided to look at
> a used Yam YZ4245F
> tomorrow (seem to have pretty good reviews).  I've
> looked at the 250 and 450
> in the showrooms, but if this used one is in good
> shape I think I'll pick it
> up.
>
> GWN
> Daren
>
> PS.  If I was seriously interested in a dual sport
> however, the L4 Adventure
> is a beautiful machine, and I imagine that the L8
> Adventure will be awesome
> too.  Seems like a better bike than the BMW GS to me
> for your buck.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GTS-1000 Owners List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: November 22, 2002 9:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: KTMs
> >
> >
> > I DO! Imagine that, RSRBOB with an opinion. :) We
> happen to be a
> > KTM dealer,
> > in addition to YAMAHA of course. Anyhow, they are
> pretty decent
> > motorcycles,
> > but compared to Japanese bikes they are very
> expensive to maintain. For
> > example, imagine popping $80 for a clutch or brake
> lever? That is
> > retail on
> > them. Sure you might be able to find them on line
> for less........ but how
> > much less? I am guessing that is about 4x as
> expensive as a
> > Yamaha lever, if
> > not more. How about fork seals? I don't remember
> the specific model but I
> > believe it was a 250 SX, nothing particularly
> special about the forks, and
> > the seal repair "kit" which was one seal and one
> dust seal was
> > $90 retail per
> > leg....  As far as reliability, they are pretty
> dog gone reliable. Nothing
> > really noticeably less than the Japanese brands.
> In the Hare
> > Scrambles, they
> > are generally a touch faster than the Japanese
> bikes, cc to cc. They are
> > maintenance intensive, esp in the four strokes,
> but equal to the
> > maintenance
> > suggested by Yamaha on their racing 4 strokes. One
> other thing to think
> > about. KTM USA is a small company. And dealing
> with it is not as easy as
> > dealing with someone like Yamaha. Expect it to
> take longer to get
> > parts that
> > have to be ordered, up to two weeks where it takes
> us 3 days for Yamaha
> > parts. Also, customer relations does not have the
> financial resources of a
> > Big 4 mc company, so don't expect as liberal
> attitude when it
> > comes to grey
> > areas of warranty coverage. You think Yamaha was
> reluctant on the
> > ABS issue?
> > If you liked that, you might love KTM.  As for me,
> they are not worth the
> > extra money. They are not markedly superior to the
> Japanese brands and in
> > some areas lag behind. If you want something that
> could be perceived as
> > exotic, it could be for you.
> > RSRBOB
> >


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