Hola, Mario. La verdad no estoy de acuerdo en lo que decís. Es verdad, trabajo para Microsoft, pero creo que a esta altura ya todos saben que mantengo el sentido crítico bastante alto (por lo menos lo saben acá adentro, donde siempre se agarran la cabeza, pero al final me aguantan).
Microsoft no dejó de desarrollar VFP porque no le genere plata. Para el caso, .NET mismo tampoco le genera un mango (el framework es gratis, hay versiones Express de Visual Studio y SQL Server, etc). Lo que Microsoft gana es apoyo al desarrollo sobre su plataforma. Y .NET es el modelo de desarrollo que Microsoft necesitaba para ponerse al día, no VFP. Así que vuelvo a la misma pregunta de siempre ¿Qué es lo que quiere la comunidad de VFP respecto a la tecnología? Sigo viendo en esta lista y en un montón de otros lados gente que ni siquiera está usando VFP 9 y por otro lado, otros generan compiladores de VFP con características novedosas y nadie les da bolilla. La verdad es que VFP 9 tiene montones de prestaciones y se puede usar todavía por muchísimo tiempo sin grandes contratiempos para sistemas de baja complejidad. Pero el paradigma de desarrollo cambió. Si uno no quiere cambiar, puede mantenerse todavía con las misma herramientas, pero no entiendo todavía el pataleo. Un abrazo, --- Martín Salías http://Salias.com.ar 2008/9/11 Cabral Mario Luis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hola Omar………….. > > > > Capaz que tengas razón, de no querer utilizar .net, pero > nuestra realidad la escribe MICROCHOT , y nos obliga a hacer lo que él > quiere guste o no, es un simple negocio, con FOX no podía seguir ganando > mucho mas $$$$$$$$$, por eso había que re-inventar la rueda, para seguir > facturado, y si queremos seguir nosotros (Por los Foxeros) en negocio, (a > menos que estemos cerca de Jubilarte), tenes que adaptarte a nuevas > tecnología si no queremos queda afuera, no te olvides que las niñas bonita > de ahora es JAVA Y .NET, el resto parecería que no existiese.- > > > > Tratar de recuperar y/o adquirir los derechos de VFP para > seguirlo, me parece que es imposible, porque seguirá en contra del negocio > propio de MS, además seria postergar la AGONIA UN POCO MAS…………. > > > > UN abrazo Mario > > > > *De:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *En nombre de *Omar Bellio > *Enviado el:* Jueves, 11 de Septiembre de 2008 09:15 a.m. > *Para:* GUFA List Member > *Asunto:* [GUFA] RE: [GUFA] Re: Re: [GUFA] OT - RE: [GUFA] Re: Re: Ken > Levy no es más parte de Microsoft? > > > > Pero Martín, lo que se me ocurre es que no tuvo éxito entre la comunidad > foxera el compilador a .net (nótense las minúsculas) porque la comunidad > foxera simplemente NO QUIERE TRABAJAR CON .net... (eso me pasa a mí, al > menos) entonces, la verdad es que ni lo miré (¿está relacionado con aquella > nota que hiciste una vez para la UT?) > > > > En fin, me voy a tomar mi sopita caliente... > > > ------------------------------ > > *De:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *En nombre de *Martín > Salías > *Enviado el:* 2008/September/10 10:16 PM > *Para:* GUFA List Member > *Asunto:* [GUFA] Re: Re: [GUFA] OT - RE: [GUFA] Re: Re: Ken Levy no es más > parte de Microsoft? > > Nono, ahí tiene un buen ejemplo: de todos los que pidieron que se liberen > las fuentes de VFP para que "la comunidad" se haga cargo, ¿cuántos probaron > al menos el producto de Samuel David y cia? ¿Cuántos lo compraron??? > > > > Y el compilador que ellos hicieron es desde muchos puntos de vista mucho > más ambicioso que un VFP comunitario. Es un compilador a .NET y extensiones > para usar todo el framework y las Class Libraries desde código VFP. > > > > De nuevo ¿cuántos realmente le dedicaron tiempo? Ni hablemos de dinero... > > > > Saludos pesimistas, > --- > > Martín Salías > http://Salias.com.ar > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Carlos Miguel FARIAS < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alguien evaluó el VFPCompiler de www.etecnologia.net? > > > > --- El *mié 10-sep-08, Omar Bellio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* escribió: > > De: Omar Bellio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: [GUFA] OT - RE: [GUFA] Re: Re: Ken Levy no es más parte de > Microsoft? > Para: "GUFA List Member" <[email protected]> > Fecha: miércoles, 10 de septiembre de 2008, 9:23 am > > > > Che, y a la banda foxera no se le ocurre la ya famosa y tan conversada idea > de hacerse con el core y continuar con la herramienta en forma > independiente? > > > > Ya sé que es difícil, ya sé que hay cuestiones de licencia, pero... no > sé... invocando a la ética, a evitar el monopolio, a Dios y María > Santísima... algo... > > > ------------------------------ > > *De:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *En nombre de *Oscar Zárate > *Enviado el:* 2008/September/09 7:39 PM > *Para:* GUFA List Member > *Asunto:* [GUFA] Re: Re: Ken Levy no es más parte de Microsoft? > > Y ... eso es bueno o malo? > > > > Digo, VFP está muerto (o con sentencia), la banda foxera está especializada > en migrar, etc. etc. > > > > No hay nada más jugoso que nos puedas contar? > > > > Abrazos, > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Martín Salías <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Efectivamente, Ken terminó su etapa en MSFT y se unió a las huestes de > Markus Egger, junto a Claudio Lasalla y compañía. Una banda foxera si las > hay. :) > > > --- > Martín Salías > http://Salias.com.ar <http://salias.com.ar/> > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Oscar Zárate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Ken Levy joins EPS Software Corp, VFPConversion.com, and CoDe Magazine > > 9/3/2008 > > Houston, Texas, - September 3rd 2008 – For immediate release: > > Ken Levy is joining EPS Software Corp. in the role of an Evangelist for > several EPS brands. Ken is the founder of MashupX LLC, and through his new > partnership with EPS, Ken will focus on EPS' VFPConversion.com effort as > well as CoDe Magazine (the leading independent magazine for .NET > developers) and EPS' custom software, mentoring, and consulting efforts > around .NET and Microsoft server products. Ken is a renowned industry > expert and was formerly at Microsoft driving community growth and > evangelism for Visual FoxPro (VFP), Windows Live (developer platform), and > Visual Studio Extensibility (VSX). > > Ken's role in VFPConversion.com focuses on educating companies with VFP > applications as well as members of the VFP community who have an interest > in utilizing other Microsoft products, such as Visual Studio, SQL Server, > and/or the .NET Framework. Ken will represent VFPConversion.com at various > events and interact with the VFPConversion community directly. Ken will > also spearhead the development of the VFPConversion.com site and accelerate > content development on that site. Due to his former role as Visual FoxPro > Product Manager and Microsoft Community liaison, Ken has a very unique set > of skills and knowledge which will now be available to the VFP community > again. > > For CoDe Magazine, Ken's role includes the development of content ideas and > concepts in particular for CoDe Focus Magazine as well as CoDe Online > properties. In the past, Ken has been involved in CoDe Focus content > development at Microsoft, as CoDe works very closely with various groups > and departments at Microsoft. In his new role, Ken will be instrumental in > ensuring a steady stream of high-quality content for .NET developers. His > role also involves him in the currently ongoing re-engineering and > re-envisioning efforts of CoDe online properties, which will make CoDe an > even richer online destination for .Net developers. > > Ken is also in charge of setting up a Seattle office for EPS Software > Corp., which in addition to the aforementioned efforts will be used as a > basis for EPS' custom software, consulting, and mentoring efforts revolving > around .NET development, including core Visual Studio/.NET development as > well as development with Microsoft Server Products, such as SQL Server and > SharePoint. > > For more information, contact EPS at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > About EPS Software Corp. > EPS Software Corp. is a multi-national corporation founded by renowned > industry expert Markus Egger. EPS is headquartered in Houston, TX (USA), > with offices in North America and Europe. EPS specializes on consulting, > mentoring, and custom software development based on the Microsoft developer > platform, including Visual Studio (.NET), SQL Server, and other Microsoft > server products, such as SharePoint. EPS is well known for its involvement > in various community efforts. EPS is involved not just in sponsorship and > trade shows, but also in the organization of various special interest > groups. Many EPS employees are well known presenters at events of all sizes > around the globe. EPS employees have received more Microsoft MVP awards > than employees of any other company. EPS is also the owner of brands such > as CoDe Magazine, VFPConversion.com, Milos Solution Platform, and Xiine > (among others). – www.eps-software.com > > About CoDe Magazine > CoDe Magazine is the leading independent .NET developer print and online > publication. CoDe Magazine provides in-depth articles for professional .NET > developers. CoDe Magazine has received numerous industry awards. In > addition to the main publication (which is printed on a regular schedule), > CoDe also publishes CoDe Focus Magazine, which is a series of special > issues focusing on specific technologies in each issue. Furthermore, CoDe > includes various online properties that can be found on the CoDe Magazine > web site. – www.code-magazine.com > > About VFPConversion.com > VFPConversion.com is a community portal and service offering for current or > former Visual FoxPro (VFP) developers with an interest in adopting newer > Microsoft technologies such as Visual Studio, .NET, and/or Microsoft SQL > Server. The VFPConversion.com web site offers a wealth of free information > such as articles and blogs. In addition, the VFPConversion.com team can > assist developers in assessing their current VFP applications and in > converting them to, or enhancing them with the aforementioned new > technologies. – www.VFPConversion.com <http://www.vfpconversion.com/> > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1663 - Release Date: 08/09/09 > 7:04 PM > > > ------------------------------ > > > Yahoo! Cocina > Recetas prácticas y comida saludable > Visitá http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 08/09/10 > 6:00 AM > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is > believed to be clean.
